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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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to truth seekers we are once again

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broadcasting live

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from the apocalypse cabin

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you know i don't want to get negative

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but

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some people talk about broadcasting from

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a bunker when they're really in some

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bedroom

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uh i got a real bunker these are two

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foot thick walls

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uh but in any case we are live from the

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apocalypse cabin

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and uh tonight we're gonna be i hope

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wrapping up

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our series of my favorite fake psychics

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as much fun as as it has been i think

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the response was not quite what i

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imagined i thought that people would be

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a little more interested in hearing the

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secrets behind these fake psychics

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but it seems like after you explain

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one's methods the rest of them are just

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very similar a little bit of off take

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each has to their methodology

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so not much interest there but i still

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wanted to conclude the series with one

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of my favorites john

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edward for those that don't know or

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remember john edward

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rose to huge international fame with a

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television show

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crossing over where he would talk to

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people's dead relatives

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he's written books given courses

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on how you too can become a medium and

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talk to dead

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people uh not sure what mr edward

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has been up to lately i think he fell

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off the radar

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and the gravy train dried up for mr

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edward

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but i wanted to uh unpack a story

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about when i saw a taping of uh

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john edwards show which may explain how

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he's able to get all of these tremendous

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hits on his television show

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um but i also uh wanted to find anybody

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else that

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had a a similar experience or had some

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personal knowledge of an encounter with

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mr edward and we

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found our friend dan hogan you may

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remember dan hogan uh

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sort of ghost hunting guy that helped us

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with this evp

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show and uh we're gonna bring mr hogan

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and and hear his story of john edward

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uh let's here we go

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there's mr hogan how are we doing how

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are you doing dan

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i'm doing good dan is an er you're is

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that your first child

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right no this is actually my third child

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third child okay but he's a very

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concerned father because we had to work

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out the show in between his baby's

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feeding schedule

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which i totally remember man you can't

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miss a scheduled feeding so

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so listen dan first thing i thought we

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would do is watch this really funny

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video that i found because it explains

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most of what anybody needs to know about

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john edward

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first of all the guy uses cold reading

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and he's not even a very good cold

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reader he's

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just average at it and i believe that he

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uses a few other

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uh techniques which you may be able to

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fill us in on

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so but first let's share this this i'm

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gonna cite fair use we're educating the

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public about fake psychics and mediums

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and specifically john edward

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and we're gonna uh be commenting

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critiquing and educating the public so

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this is fair use

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sharing this sharing this video which is

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titled john edward crossing over

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the line false hope and fraud

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and uh you know i haven't thought about

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south park for a while but the intro to

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made me laugh and i think explains most

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of what you need to know about

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our fake psychic medium friend john

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edward

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uh so let's take uh let's

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this is gonna be a fun show let's start

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it off in a fun way

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because how what's more fun than south

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park making fun of this clown right

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john edwards you are a liar you are a

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fake and you are the biggest douche ever

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everyone is positive and gives them hope

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how does that make me a douche

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because the big questions in life are

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tough why are we here where are we from

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where are we going but if people believe

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in [\h__\h] douchey liars like you we're

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never going to find the real answer to

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those questions

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you aren't just lying you're slowing

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it's a trick you do and i need you to

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just let my friend kyle know that so he

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can go on with his life

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right to be skeptical i really hear

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voices in my head yes we all hear voices

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in our heads it's called intuition

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get over yourself and tell my friend

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it's just for fun look what i do doesn't

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hurt anybody i give people closure and

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help them cope with life

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no you give them false hope and a belief

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in something that isn't real but i'm a

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psychic

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no dude you're a douche i'm not a dude

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what if i really believe dead people

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then you're a stupid douche when you

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understand the process

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but if you're looking for a reading to

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fix your grief

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it does not the john edwards show is not

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liable for opinions and materials given

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for entertainment purposes only

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so i want to be very very clear it's

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entertainment purposes

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i'm ready to go there's a younger male

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energy in this section that make me feel

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there is a cancer

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connection that comes up here this makes

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yeah cancer is the second leading cause

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of death way to go out on ellen

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there john what a douche where's robert

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i'm sensing an a does your name begin

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k l m n o p p peter my name's peter is

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peter wow you are some kind of sorcerer

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like you guys over here the four of you

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all together the three of you okay

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robert my father passed yes okay cancer

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too is my grandfather and his mom

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somebody had something affected their

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and pass from that yes

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she's making me feel like when she

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passes she passes either around or on a

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so pretty much any time of the year yeah

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way to go with the generalization

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um my american flag

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so when i see the flag yeah when i see

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that it lets me know that we're talking

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about like either july

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11th yeah it's july 4th veterans day

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did he pass in the september 11th yes

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simon your dad is robert we we

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already addressed that are you the baby

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okay he's making me feel like you're the

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baby girl yeah wrong again

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so this this is just one of the and this

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on his show so imagine how bad the

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readings are that he edits out

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how bad those are we'll unpack more and

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hear more about that in a bit

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i do i did want to just stop this every

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so often so that we don't get the

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dreaded black screen

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policy violation from youtube somehow

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do watch parties watching whole movies

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and not get that but we get it when we

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it is what it is friends that's how it's

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come across to me he's also making me

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is his mother still here he's telling me

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to acknowledge his mom yes we need to

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make sure that his mom knows that he

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she needs a big hug okay no questions no

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captain obvious he strikes again i

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as mom there's no greater loss than the

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loss of a child don't lose sight of that

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okay now you talked to him that day

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though is from him

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is he's doing something very different

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for me than i think the norm would be

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for what he would do

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so if he normally did abc as a

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addition to abc it's his first day back

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to work after surgery

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firehouse because my feeling is that he

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right okay and do you have two boys i do

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young son passed away last year he's

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telling me to talk about

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why isn't the dead son talking so you

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lost your son after your husband

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yes that's his son as well i had three

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sons right but one of them has passed

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so it's your brother who passed yeah

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it's so funny

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it's like they don't want to talk about

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was he killed just yes or no as best as

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what i'm being shown again and fast

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and not an illness that's why i said is

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he being killed it's was he killed and

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the reason why i said that is

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he's not taking the responsibility on

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for how he got there so

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if he's not taking on responsibility my

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immediate feeling would be well

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something had to happen to him

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and you're saying no so clearly he had

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to be involved in his own passing for

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what you're saying

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but um he's not yeah and they all do

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this they backpedal

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and make excuses when they fail

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cold reading i suppose is the way that a

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complete stranger can seemingly tell you

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everything about yourself without

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without being psychic

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and without knowing anything about you

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uh i thought this video was

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also appropriate because a lot of people

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have mentioned darren brown to me i'm

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a former magician so i'm very familiar

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with darren brown he is probably the

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world's leading

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mentalist or mental magician uh

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just a tremendous talent um in essence

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the cold reader or psychic is supplying

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a lot of words

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and you as the sitter the other person

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is supplying the meaning to those words

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um and it relies on a lot of techniques

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it's not really

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a question of forensic body reading and

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the sort of things that

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people might it's not really normally

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there are linguistic tricks which uh

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unless you're aware of them are very

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easy to fall for

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and those tricks can give the impression

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that the person knows everything about

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your character or might

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refer to facts and things from your life

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okay i'm gonna pretend that a dead

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person is talking to me about you okay

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okay watch kyle it's an older man

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someone very close to you

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my father does this month november hold

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a special significance

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my birthday's in november right because

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he's saying tell her happy birthday

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oh my god the kyle you're probably with

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something really boring

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the man be betting that based on this

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woman's age her father is most likely

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dead but if her father wasn't dead i

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could still say it was some other older

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man

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her birthday was in november i didn't i

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just asked her if november meant

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anything her father could have died in

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november or thanksgiving could have been

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really special for them but i go with

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the birthday and validate it now as if i

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knew by saying he wishes you a happy

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birthday

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honey stop worrying about the money oh

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my god

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my sister and i have been fighting over

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as inhabitants that's amazing

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no it isn't when a father dies

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inheritance is usually an issue and

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money is something everyone worries

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about

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the only problem i guess i have is that

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you know if

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if god somebody who passed on in my life

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wanted to talk to me why wouldn't they

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come directly to me why would i need you

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that's a great question i actually think

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they do and one of my one of my things

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you know

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when i was a kid and i started doing

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this 25 years ago my grandmother would

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hear me say

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to my clients you know you don't need me

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if you pay attention to the energy

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that's around you you'll be able to

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recognize the signs and symbols

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of how your family communicates with you

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and then these people would leave and my

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grandmother go

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what are you telling people stuff like

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that for you're not going to have any

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business

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and i'm like listen it's not about

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business it's about teaching

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50 to 800 and yes look i've read all

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your critics i read the new york times

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magazine i read

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the whole dateline the thing time

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accusing you of using these very

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you know a cold read where you can read

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people i've been able to read people my

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entire life because i've interviewed

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people now for 20 some odd years

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okay so you can read people that way or

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houdini used to have microphones and he

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would pick up

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stories and then he'd seem like a genius

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i know exactly what you're thinking but

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meanwhile they had picked it up earlier

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so there are techniques that hucksters

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and and fraud people use you're saying

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you never use that

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never no actually look kyle

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is on the internet i think john edward

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has the entire studio wired to hear what

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people are talking about before the show

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and he pays actors to be planned in the

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audience you're just jealous he's a

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better psychic than you

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right let me ask you this did you in

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your show do you edit out parts no it

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doesn't make you look good as

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as time magazine you can literally call

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i tell you but

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i'm saying you could literally speak to

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me you read the piece that said that you

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do oh

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absolutely you don't do that they edited

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for time people edit for time but if

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they took things out that were

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inaccurate they took out things that

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were more accurate

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oh man i can't believe i got fooled by

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they must edit the shows down on

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television to only show him getting

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mostly right answers

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at first i thought you were all just

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stupid listen to this douche's advice

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but now i understand that you're all

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here because you're scared you're scared

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of death and he offers you some kind of

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understanding

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you won't want to believe in it so much

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i know you do you find comfort in the

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thought that your loved ones are

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floating around trying to talk to you

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but think about it

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is that really what you want to just be

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floating around after you die having to

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talk to this [\h__\h]

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[Music]

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we need to recognize this stuff for what

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it is magic tricks

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we offer a million dollar prize to any

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person

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any paranormal alcohol or supernatural

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event of any kind

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under proper observing conditions it's

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that simple

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yeah so there we have it we have south

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park explaining to us the douche that

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john edward is

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and by the way one second friends

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okay so in the in the interview uh in

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the fox news interview he's

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he basically danced around do they edit

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the

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just edit it for time

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friends i was a personal witness to a

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taping and i

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tell you absolutely true

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he edits out all or most of the misses

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but dan hogan you got to see him in a

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different sort of

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taping for his television show

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and i know that you're pressed for time

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with that baby

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so why don't you tell us your story of

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of

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how you encountered john edward what

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were your thoughts what were your

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impressions and what was the takeaway

431
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when you were when you were done with

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this experience

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seeing him live so yeah like you said i

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saw him

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i guess in sort of a different capacity

436
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than what you did

437
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um we actually me and my dad actually

438
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went to see him

439
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back at the end of 2017. uh he was

440
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coming through

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cincinnati and it was part of his like

442
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2017

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psychic tour that he was doing so we

444
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we go down they had it at a at a hotel

445
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it's like the marriott

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and uh tickets were like a hundred

447
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dollars a pop

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so me and my dad go in and it's in like

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this massive

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you know like meeting banquet hall area

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and i would guess that there was

452
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probably 200 people in this room i mean

453
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that was a pretty that's a pretty close

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guess and um you know starts out

455
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his sister actually came out who i don't

456
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know if his sister was like his business

457
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man like his you know his manager or she

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was

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you know just like working on the tour

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with them but she comes out and she kind

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of goes over like you know

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their family kind of like a family

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history and like her brother and like

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you know when he started developing

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these you know abilities and whatnot

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and um she talks for like 15 or 20

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minutes

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you know introduces him and then he

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comes out and he starts

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he starts the reading and uh he was like

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you know the

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the people that he was like picking out

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like obviously like you said i think he

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some of the some of the stuff he uses

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you know he throws out sort of vague

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questions and just general statements

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and then people

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you know if they feel like that's

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something that that works with them they

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you know they would raise their hand or

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whatever

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and this i think the the total time he

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was doing this was probably

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i don't know hour 15 minutes it was

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close to an hour and a half

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and um you know the the take away that i

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got from it

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i mean being given the fact that it was

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a massive room and there's that many

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people in there

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i kind of got the feeling that these

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people that he hit on were

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were like paid actors students that you

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know they were stooges yeah and

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he you know they were he you know they'd

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already gone over this stuff

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beforehand so when you know when he

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calls them out or when they raise their

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hand and he does his whole spiel

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it it sounds more believable because i

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think that it was like rehearsed or they

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had already

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they had some kind of script i think

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that they were following

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and um you know it's it's

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i don't know i mean i think my my

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thought on it was

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you know and you've touched on this and

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these other shows that you've done

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talking about these other

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you know psychics is they're really just

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feeding off of people's

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you know emotions and people get wrapped

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up in this stuff and i guess you know in

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a way

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um i guess me and my dad were sort of in

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that same

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um

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so it's just it's sad that you know he's

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100

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a pop for 200 people i mean that's big

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money and he does this

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you know how many times a week all over

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the country for a whole year i mean

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that's big dollars

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that we're talking about yeah it's a

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huge amount of money and

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now you mentioned his family i did some

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checking and and

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the best that i can tell is that mr john

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edward came from

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basically what many would consider a

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gypsy

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family of psych and and they're psychics

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you know like grand mom is psychic

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you know uh the sister reads tarot cards

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and is some kind of other psychic but

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not a medium but the medium job is john

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edward

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in the family and when he rose to

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prominence they

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all sort of helped him with the grift

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that's the sense that i got

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and i know the sister that you're

545
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talking about because she was at the

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taping that i was at

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okay for his television show and she's

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sort of like a handler

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for him sort of like a uh uh

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an opening act you might say right yep

551
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that's the impression that i got from

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her

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i don't really remember because like i

554
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said this was this was like almost three

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years ago now so i mean

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parts of like parts of that are sort of

557
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you know vague a little bit but

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i don't remember them going in or at

559
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least her specifically i don't remember

560
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her specifically going into

561
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you know like a family history of you

562
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know mediums or anything like that it

563
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was more like about him

564
00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:46,240
and when like as a child when he started

565
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:48,000
talking to dead people and how

566
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:50,400
the family reacted to it and it was sort

567
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:51,600
of her

568
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:54,400
her take on like what he you know who he

569
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:55,200
was as a

570
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,559
as a medium and how it kind of

571
00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:58,960
progressed through the years as he rose

572
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,679
to

573
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,039
you know prominence and had a bigger

574
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:03,600
stage for his you know his show or his

575
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:06,720
grift whatever you want to call it

576
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:09,760
yeah yeah and so you but you you your

577
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:10,559
take away

578
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:13,760
having seen him was that it wasn't you

579
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,880
you weren't impressed

580
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,120
with his psychic abilities or i think

581
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,880
going in did you think that he really

582
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,559
was real

583
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:23,120
i don't i don't really i didn't think

584
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:24,640
that he was real i mean i guess like

585
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:26,159
there's always a part of you that

586
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:28,400
you know wants to believe that that

587
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:29,760
something like that is

588
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,039
is true sure i think i think his setup

589
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:34,799
is different based on the venue that

590
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:35,600
he's in

591
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:38,240
you know like with his show you know the

592
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,280
studio that they're in

593
00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:41,440
it kind of it's a it's a smaller setup

594
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:42,559
so you might have

595
00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,200
i don't know what 40 you know 40 or 50

596
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,280
people or something in there maybe

597
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:49,039
you know so some of the stuff that

598
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:50,480
you've talked about in the other shows

599
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,120
where

600
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,039
you know they're they've got people who

601
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:54,720
are out mingling in the crowd before the

602
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,520
show who are

603
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,480
you know picking up on things um john

604
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,080
edwards been around since really before

605
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,919
social media became a big thing so i

606
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:03,280
would almost have to think that

607
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:06,080
some of his you know pre-show stuff is

608
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:06,720
not

609
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,000
social media based i think he had people

610
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,159
like in the audience or in the crowd

611
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,400
you know prior to the show listening or

612
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:16,080
they had you know maybe they had the

613
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,960
studio

614
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:18,640
you know microphoned and were picking up

615
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:20,799
side conversations and people

616
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,520
you know i hope i i hope he picks me and

617
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:25,200
you know he communicates with grandma or

618
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:26,320
something like that like

619
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,760
they're they're hitting on those things

620
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,440
and i think they're you know

621
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,480
whether it's an earpiece he's he's

622
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:34,000
getting information funneled to him

623
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:34,559
somehow

624
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:37,840
in my opinion sure absolutely

625
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,240
but and you're right about the he he was

626
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:42,240
previous to the social media explosion

627
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:43,760
when he rose to prominence so he

628
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,679
wouldn't have that as a weapon

629
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:47,679
that was something that was an

630
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:50,720
innovative part of teresa caputo's grip

631
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:53,840
but in this case uh when i attended the

632
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,320
taping

633
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,000
i was shocked and amazed because first

634
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:58,240
of all they let everybody into this one

635
00:23:03,110 --> 00:22:59,600
big room

636
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:03,120
first right and then we waited we all

637
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:05,200
waited standing there in that room and

638
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:06,799
yeah people start chatting and people

639
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:08,559
start talking amongst themselves

640
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:12,000
for a good hour maybe hour and 15

641
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:12,880
minutes

642
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,000
before they let us into the second room

643
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,840
and i was looking around this room and i

644
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,679
was sure that there was marks

645
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:21,600
and you know what i mean by a mark there

646
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,200
was people there

647
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,720
that were i swore i saw somebody touch

648
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:27,679
an earpiece

649
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:30,640
or touch their ear a few times walked by

650
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:30,960
them

651
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:34,080
saw an earpiece in their ear in their

652
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,600
one ear

653
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,360
a few of the other marks i tried to do

654
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,600
that too but they were further away

655
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,400
and it was like awkward so i was i was

656
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:44,400
satisfied though seeing one

657
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:47,679
shill or mark in the room i was sure

658
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:48,840
that they were collecting

659
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,919
information and also this same person

660
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,440
i saw one of the other marks going in

661
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:55,520
their pocket several times

662
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:58,799
so i thought that they were collecting

663
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,919
conversational pieces uh with the with

664
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:03,679
the pocket recorder or something like

665
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:04,480
that

666
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,600
and then interestingly uh

667
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:09,279
i think there was probably three or four

668
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:11,200
marks they

669
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:14,240
left the room a good half hour before

670
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,279
they let

671
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:18,320
us all in in other words they went the

672
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:19,360
marks

673
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,480
got into the taping room and that made

674
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,960
me go they were definitely marks

675
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,600
and then this is speculation but i think

676
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:29,279
they all rush back there with their

677
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,000
tapes

678
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:33,039
making notes to feed to him later you

679
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:34,480
know what i mean

680
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:37,679
the other big yeah no i was just gonna

681
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,320
say and

682
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,880
that could be now when you did the show

683
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:42,159
or when you did the

684
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:43,440
when you were in the audience for the

685
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:46,159
taping after the taping was over did

686
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,120
they um

687
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,960
did they have anybody else like stay

688
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,640
behind after

689
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:53,200
after the show was done taping yeah they

690
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,799
did but i wasn't picked to be one of

691
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,320
them so i don't know and then the door

692
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:58,000
closes so i don't know what happened

693
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,559
with them

694
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,559
with those yeah i was going to say

695
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:02,080
because i guess the only disclaimer that

696
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:03,520
i would have to this is that

697
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:06,159
there was a vip ticket that you could

698
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:07,200
buy for like

699
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,880
yeah 175 it was probably 175 200

700
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,640
i can't i can't recall but it was some

701
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,400
it was in that higher price point

702
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,559
and those are like the guaranteed you're

703
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,760
guaranteed that you're going to get a

704
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,520
rebound for the 175.

705
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:20,720
i don't know if it was guaranteed that

706
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,840
you were going to get a reading but what

707
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,360
it was was like after the

708
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,080
the main you know show was over the

709
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,000
people who didn't have vip tickets were

710
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:30,000
asked you know you guys go ahead and go

711
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:31,039
and the vip

712
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:32,720
you know ticket holders were able to

713
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,279
stay behind maybe in the hopes of

714
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:38,080
in a you know smaller smaller room

715
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,799
setting

716
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:40,480
that you know maybe they would get a

717
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:41,360
reading i don't know if you were

718
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,000
guaranteed

719
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,600
opportunity to be in a

720
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,919
in a closer setting with them but i mean

721
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,360
and again

722
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:51,919
with other scams like this the vip

723
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,720
ticket

724
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,320
would mean that you're going to get a

725
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:55,760
reading so

726
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,919
like like you said it it could be that

727
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,520
you know i don't know how many people

728
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:02,080
had vip tickets but the plants or the

729
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:03,279
marks that you're talking they could

730
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,240
have had those people

731
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,720
scattered inside the vip you know part

732
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,880
of it to where he's sitting on them

733
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:10,320
and everybody's like oh you know oh [\h__\h]

734
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:11,440
i didn't i didn't they could have

735
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:13,520
checked who had vip tickets on the way

736
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:13,919
in

737
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,600
the vips

738
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,400
yeah correct yeah yeah it's kind of

739
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:22,320
fascinating how these grips work and to

740
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,799
me

741
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,960
so the other big takeaway that i would

742
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,720
say having witnessed one of these

743
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:28,640
tapings is that the taping went

744
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,760
for two hours and 20 minutes or just

745
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,080
about two hours and 20 minutes

746
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,640
and i made notes while i was in there

747
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,000
two hours and 20 minutes

748
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,440
of miss miss miss miss miss miss hit

749
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,480
miss miss miss miss miss miss miss hit

750
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:47,039
it was i was shocked at how terrible he

751
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,159
was at cold reading

752
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,919
i thought that he was at least good at

753
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:51,360
cold reading and i

754
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,840
would say i've witnessed a hundred

755
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:55,440
different people that were pretty good

756
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:56,320
at cold reading

757
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:58,960
i would put him on the lower scale of of

758
00:27:09,909 --> 00:26:59,440
the

759
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:09,919
we have a two-hour and 20-minute session

760
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,720
of a hundred

761
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:12,720
or so people in this room where he's

762
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,320
doing these readings

763
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,960
and it gets edited down to not a half

764
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,520
hour

765
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,919
but 22 minutes because they have to

766
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,600
leave time in that half hour show for

767
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:23,039
eight minutes of commercials

768
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,960
so we have two hours and 20 minutes of

769
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,640
him giving readings

770
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:28,960
edit it down to 22 minutes of a

771
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,799
television show

772
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:33,600
and of course i watched the show that i

773
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,120
saw the taping for

774
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:37,679
and what i saw was instead of hit hit

775
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,240
hit hit hit hit hit hit or excuse me

776
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:42,960
miss miss miss miss miss hit miss miss

777
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,840
miss miss

778
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:45,760
miss hit what you see on the television

779
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,399
show is hit hit hit hit hit hit miss

780
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:50,320
hit hit hit hit hit it's like they

781
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:51,760
invert what actu

782
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:54,720
what the reality of that event really

783
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:55,360
was

784
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,679
and they're only showing mostly his hits

785
00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:59,279
and cutting out

786
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:02,399
two hours of him missing terribly i

787
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:03,840
think that my experience was a little

788
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:04,320
bit dif

789
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,600
almost feel like there there was almost

790
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:10,080
more you know quote-unquote hits but

791
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,960
then i guess

792
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,640
what are you what are you classifying as

793
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,840
a hit like i mean when you're throwing

794
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,279
out general statements

795
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:17,520
i mean that could that could sort of be

796
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:18,640
a you know a hit

797
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:20,000
with a lot of people but unless you're

798
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,679
being really specific

799
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:24,240
um i think it's kind of hard to say yeah

800
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:24,960
that's a

801
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:28,080
not a hit but that was kind of what

802
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:29,520
struck me about the whole thing was that

803
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,039
there wasn't a lot of

804
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,039
i guess misses like i said it almost

805
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,880
felt very scripted

806
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,440
and i you know i can't put myself in

807
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:39,200
another person's shoes but

808
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,640
like if i would have if that would have

809
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:42,880
been me and like you know

810
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:46,000
he's he's talking to my dead relative or

811
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,720
something

812
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,080
i feel like there would be more of an

813
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,399
emotional like sort of feel

814
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:52,159
and i and i didn't really feel like that

815
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,679
was the case like the people that he was

816
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:55,120
doing this with that you know he was

817
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:56,159
pointing out

818
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,000
it was almost more of like not cold but

819
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,840
like they were just like yeah

820
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,840
yeah you know yeah that's my brother

821
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,279
that's my father like something you know

822
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,520
something like that i didn't get this

823
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:07,840
like i didn't get this emotional

824
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:10,399
you know like i didn't it didn't it just

825
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,360
didn't feel

826
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,919
like it was it was real i guess is the

827
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:15,520
only way i can put it

828
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:18,640
yeah i got the i really i

829
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,520
i went there sort of already biased that

830
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,440
he was just a cold reader and that he's

831
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,200
probably editing the hell out of his

832
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:26,960
show but i wanted to be sure

833
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:30,320
so i went and and witnessed this and

834
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:33,120
it was a cold reading mess it was a cold

835
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:34,320
reading mess not even

836
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:37,440
good cold reading you know like i had

837
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,240
the feeling that if he had to do

838
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,120
live shows he would fail miserably and

839
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,960
then what i found was on a lot of his

840
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:46,640
like when he does a guest spot on

841
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,080
somebody else's show

842
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,919
it's much more honest portrayal of what

843
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,159
he actually does because he can't edit

844
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,240
they edit it you know yeah and they

845
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:56,320
might not play ball so much and edit out

846
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,200
all the hits but

847
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:59,039
for his own television show he has the

848
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,480
control factor

849
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,880
and you know it's pretty disingenuous

850
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:04,559
what he said on this fox news interview

851
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,120
because

852
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:07,279
he's the person that directs the editing

853
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,039
it's his television show

854
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,799
and he's saying no we don't edit out

855
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,559
hits or misses

856
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,880
of course he does i was witness to that

857
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:16,799
and there's other people online who have

858
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,279
written

859
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,840
blog posts about this guy and attending

860
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,360
the taping and having a similar

861
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,799
experience

862
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,960
and if nothing else we have south park

863
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:26,159
to explain to us

864
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:29,279
that he's a douche you know

865
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:31,279
to his credit though i mean and i guess

866
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:33,039
this is true for you know sylvia brown

867
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:34,399
and van praag and a lot of these other

868
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,200
people who have

869
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:37,039
i guess sort of rose to prominence but

870
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,320
there is a lot of

871
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,480
video of him throughout the years i mean

872
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,159
i did a little bit of youtube

873
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:44,480
research before going to this and i mean

874
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:45,200
you know there's

875
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,600
there's videos of him like doing like

876
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:49,120
new shows in australia

877
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,520
he was on like an anderson cooper like

878
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:53,440
live deal where he did a reading on him

879
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:54,720
while they were sitting there so i mean

880
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,360
like

881
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:57,440
you know there there's obviously editing

882
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,480
on his end

883
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,559
but then you sort of wonder like when

884
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,919
he's doing you know when he's doing this

885
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:03,360
publicity stuff that you know putting

886
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:04,799
his name out there

887
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,880
how how is that going i mean are they

888
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,159
are they editing

889
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,279
information sort of fed to him because

890
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:12,799
these are prominent people so i mean

891
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:13,360
there's

892
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,480
these people out there

893
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,440
yeah he could do some priesthood work

894
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:21,360
yeah he can do some research if he knows

895
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,799
that he's going to be giving a reading

896
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:24,320
to anderson cooper

897
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,919
that's a famous person you can find out

898
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,440
who that person's mother is if they're

899
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:29,200
still living if they're still dead

900
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,279
you know there's a lot of there's a lot

901
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,200
of methods that he could be using when

902
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,039
he does do a decent i've seen him do a

903
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,720
few decent live

904
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:39,039
live readings uh that didn't appear to

905
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,039
be heavily edited to me

906
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:43,440
but uh you know even a broken clock is

907
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,720
right twice a day

908
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,799
you know so it doesn't it's not very

909
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,240
convincing to me and one of the other

910
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,919
things that always strikes me with all

911
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,600
of these mediums is that

912
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:54,240
not a one of them has ever produced a

913
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:54,960
unique

914
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:58,080
piece of information that only

915
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,519
the the dead person and the person

916
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,519
their relative living that he's giving

917
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,039
the reading to would know

918
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:07,600
i've never seen that happen never yeah

919
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:08,240
it's always

920
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:11,120
generalized statements you know uh and

921
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:11,679
and

922
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,840
jumping at all these guesses he rapid

923
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:16,559
fires throws out all of this stuff

924
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,600
and what hits he continues with what

925
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,880
fails he kind of

926
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,720
drops to the side and keeps throwing out

927
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,399
stuff till he gets that hit to talk

928
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:26,320
about

929
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,919
well like you said i mean and all these

930
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,919
shows that you watch and even if you've

931
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:31,440
ever talked to somebody who's been to a

932
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:32,320
psychic or

933
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,519
you know a proclaimed medium um i

934
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,200
i don't think i've ever maybe one time i

935
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:39,120
had somebody tell me oh you know they

936
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,480
said something to me that

937
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:43,440
was personal to me i mean any other time

938
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,000
it's

939
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:47,279
statements and you would think that if

940
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:48,399
your dead relatives are trying to

941
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,600
communicate with you

942
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,919
they would make they would make it clear

943
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:53,760
that that's the person

944
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:55,519
you know that that's your that's your

945
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:56,799
dad or that's your

946
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,720
sister that's your fan or something like

947
00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:00,320
that and it's always like well i have a

948
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,440
presence here

949
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:04,720
female older you know

950
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:07,919
grandma to die like it's yeah yeah i'm

951
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,640
yeah if you're of a certain age it's

952
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,480
pretty good bet that you have a grandma

953
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:13,919
that died you know

954
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:15,519
yeah and the other thing that i don't

955
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:18,159
i'm sorry go ahead no go ahead go ahead

956
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:19,120
well i'm just going to say the other

957
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,320
thing that i don't understand either is

958
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,679
you know what you never see on any of

959
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:22,880
these videos is

960
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:25,360
you never see like a disclaimer this is

961
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:27,919
for entertainment purposes only so like

962
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,120
to me that's almost like i'm i'm

963
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:33,600
selling myself as the real deal and i

964
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:34,720
don't know how these people

965
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:37,760
don't just have massive like fraud

966
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:40,320
lawsuits against them for the stuff that

967
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,600
they're doing

968
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:43,279
yeah and you know i think that we're

969
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,919
gonna see for entertainment purposes

970
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:47,840
only disclaimers coming to a lot of

971
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:49,679
things including a lot of [\h__\h]

972
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,640
ufo alien channels and stories because

973
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,919
those guys are

974
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:55,600
they've pushed things right to the edge

975
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,440
of legality and they're starting to get

976
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,880
in trouble for some of the [\h__\h] that

977
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,240
they're spewing

978
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,480
uh but if they put that disclaimer on

979
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:04,640
they could get a free pass so i think

980
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,440
we're gonna see

981
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,679
a lot more of that but just like the ufo

982
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,839
frauds these people portray themselves

983
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:11,520
as a genuine

984
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,079
real factual thing and these readings as

985
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:16,159
being factual that i'm really talking to

986
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:17,119
your dead uncle

987
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,879
or whatever and uh it's funny to me that

988
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:22,240
they get away with it

989
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:24,079
and to the tune of millions he's a

990
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:25,200
millionaire this guy became a

991
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:26,720
millionaire from this

992
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,639
i'm not sure on the on the ufo

993
00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,079
standpoint i'm not sure about that

994
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,159
because i feel like a certain somebody

995
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,879
went a little too far with his uh you

996
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:36,879
know frivolous lawsuits and

997
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,359
you know i think the aftermath of that

998
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,720
might be that some of these uh

999
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:42,159
other fraudsters out there are maybe

1000
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:43,839
gonna be a little bit smarter

1001
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:46,639
about the fights that they pick uh on

1002
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,280
the internet

1003
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:49,919
in my opinion yeah well you know here

1004
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:51,359
the problem is and i've heard other

1005
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:54,000
people touch on it is that it used to be

1006
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,599
that people got together at these

1007
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,599
conferences sort of pre-internet

1008
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,440
and if you thought somebody was a fraud

1009
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,119
or whatever you just let it go and it

1010
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:03,119
didn't become a back and forth but with

1011
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,560
the internet now

1012
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,720
anybody can come out and tell their

1013
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,720
fairy tale ufo

1014
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,800
secret space stories and then anybody

1015
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:12,160
else can come on the internet and say

1016
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,520
this guy's full of [\h__\h] and here's

1017
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:16,079
why and we never had that before i but i

1018
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:17,359
think it's a good thing

1019
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:19,359
and as far as this you know all these

1020
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,480
frivolous lawsuits

1021
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,400
i spent some time today actually reading

1022
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:24,079
some of the court documents

1023
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:26,480
and uh i'm very let me just say that i'm

1024
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,359
very

1025
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,440
uh unimpressed with the plaintiff's

1026
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,200
attorney and her

1027
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:33,359
legalese and writing and i'm very

1028
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:34,640
impressed with

1029
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,839
the defendants and specifically today i

1030
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:40,160
was impressed with cliff high's motion

1031
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:41,280
to dismiss he's

1032
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,720
representing himself and his his motion

1033
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,599
is written

1034
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:47,359
so much better than the plaintiff's

1035
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:49,680
attorney's motion is written

1036
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:52,079
and she went to law school so good for

1037
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,200
cliff high

1038
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,359
i hope things work out and this thing

1039
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:56,480
gets thrown out

1040
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,119
for the bullshittery that it is because

1041
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,960
essentially

1042
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:03,040
what some people think they should just

1043
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,640
be able to go on the internet and say

1044
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,480
whatever the hell they want

1045
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,480
and nobody's allowed to critique them

1046
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,160
you know and this person suing

1047
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,320
everybody's claiming that he's gonna

1048
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,400
reveal all this stuff about the ufo

1049
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:16,400
community and everybody he's suing is

1050
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,880
almost

1051
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:19,440
unknown or barely known as a ufo

1052
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,800
community person

1053
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:22,880
they don't really you know the problem

1054
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,839
is is that he

1055
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,359
i mean everybody knows who we're talking

1056
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,599
about

1057
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:30,240
he is known though i mean when you go on

1058
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:31,359
jenny mccarthy's

1059
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:34,160
serious radio show and talk about the

1060
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,599
movie that you were in

1061
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:38,240
and you know you're going around with um

1062
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,720
you know

1063
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:41,520
a certain other uh ufologist celebrity i

1064
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,920
mean

1065
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,839
you're putting yourself out there to be

1066
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:46,240
criticized and then he gets criticized

1067
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:47,040
by people

1068
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,040
who call him out on his [\h__\h] and

1069
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:50,880
then like it like like we're in sixth

1070
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:51,520
grade

1071
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,440
you know recess he goes and cries to the

1072
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:55,359
teacher and

1073
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:58,720
now and he's just suing everybody

1074
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:02,240
yeah and uh you know i think i probably

1075
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,839
and and the thing is it's pretty

1076
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,520
selective too because there are some

1077
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:07,119
other pretty staunch critics of him

1078
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,320
including me

1079
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:10,079
somehow i didn't get sued by the grace

1080
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,599
of god i don't want to get sued that's a

1081
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,680
tremendous [\h__\h] hassle

1082
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:16,320
you know but i support everyone's

1083
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,359
freedom of speech

1084
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,119
and if some clown is going to go out

1085
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,960
there on the internet and make up

1086
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,480
fantastical claims

1087
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,160
even if he wasn't a celebrity even if he

1088
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,920
just went on the internet on a public

1089
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:27,119
youtube channel and made these

1090
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:28,560
ridiculous claims

1091
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:30,079
calling him a celebrity is a stretch if

1092
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,599
you ask me but like

1093
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,599
as far as he goes like yeah you're right

1094
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:35,280
he's on a television show he's been on

1095
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,119
national radio programs

1096
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:40,000
talking his smack [\h__\h] we're allowed

1097
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:40,720
to

1098
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:43,839
talk about him doing that everybody is

1099
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:46,320
do you do you think that he was really

1100
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,920
the one pushing this whole deal or you

1101
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,560
think that

1102
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,440
somebody else was kind of started that

1103
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:52,880
got this train going

1104
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,119
yeah i if if i had to guess i would

1105
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,240
think that uh

1106
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:58,320
that this is a plot hatch between

1107
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,839
wilcock and him

1108
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,920
you know that's what i think we'll both

1109
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:03,839
make a ton of money from this [\h__\h] and

1110
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,079
at the time he was just i think he just

1111
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:08,000
declared bankruptcy and he was broke as

1112
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,480
[\h__\h]

1113
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,079
he was getting evicted from an apartment

1114
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,160
or he was living in some [\h__\h] apartment

1115
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:14,160
and then here comes david wilcock and

1116
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:16,240
all you got to do is say some [\h__\h]

1117
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,760
just say some [\h__\h] i think the other

1118
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,680
thing too to me is is like you know look

1119
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,119
at the people that he's

1120
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,960
that he's brought in like you know jay

1121
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:26,320
widener you know

1122
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,960
roger ramsar all and i mean you can say

1123
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:30,079
you can say what you want about jay

1124
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,200
weiner because i know a lot of

1125
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,800
you know i know a lot of people that i

1126
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:34,400
associate with i guess online who are

1127
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:35,920
very pro j whiter and i'm not saying

1128
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,599
that i'm anti-j

1129
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,599
but you know when he when they were

1130
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,040
doing the gaia thing

1131
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:43,280
i mean they were all obviously profiting

1132
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:44,320
off of cosmic

1133
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:46,320
you know disclosure and they were all

1134
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,359
making money

1135
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:50,079
you know jay widener included so you

1136
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,520
know for jay to kind of come out after

1137
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,960
the fact and be like oh yeah you know

1138
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,880
this guy was a real piece of work yadda

1139
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,480
yadda it's like dude you knew that from

1140
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,839
the get-go

1141
00:39:01,829 --> 00:39:00,480
and uh you know to quote cw like from

1142
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:01,839
jump street this is like

1143
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,440
you know this is like what was going on

1144
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:05,359
you knew this and you turned a blind eye

1145
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:06,560
to it because it was all about making it

1146
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:07,200
it was like

1147
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,560
yeah he was getting while he was getting

1148
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:10,079
a paycheck he didn't have that much to

1149
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:11,040
say

1150
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:14,320
yeah and and now he's like yeah

1151
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:17,200
but to his credit i will say this

1152
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:18,800
everybody has made mistakes in their

1153
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,280
lives

1154
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,880
and at least i'll say this about him

1155
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:22,720
he's trying to own up and make amends

1156
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,280
for his

1157
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:26,000
mistake and admit it and move on with

1158
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:27,760
his life and at least i respect him that

1159
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:28,560
he

1160
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:31,920
it sooner

1161
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:35,119
of course but you know it is what it is

1162
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,839
so as far as the fake psychics you're

1163
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:38,640
unconvinced

1164
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:42,079
that mr edwards has any psychic ability

1165
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,760
no i don't i don't think he does i mean

1166
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,960
like i said as much as there's that

1167
00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:46,800
little part of me that would like to say

1168
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:49,599
you know this guy's for real um i think

1169
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,720
there's just too much

1170
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,320
there's too much evidence there to show

1171
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:54,480
that that there's some you know it's

1172
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:54,960
either

1173
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:58,640
people you know people are getting the

1174
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,800
information before the show and then

1175
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,280
he's getting it and i think that's what

1176
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,800
a lot of that is

1177
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,280
yeah yeah i'm unconvinced about him or

1178
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,960
any of the others that i've looked into

1179
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:10,400
and it's disappointing because i'd love

1180
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,440
a world where people could have

1181
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,200
superpowers like this that would be much

1182
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:15,200
more interesting world to live in

1183
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,800
and i would sure like to talk to some

1184
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,480
dead relatives if it was

1185
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,480
really possible but i'm certainly not

1186
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,760
going to shell out a couple hundred

1187
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,920
bucks to some fake that's going to guess

1188
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,960
you know

1189
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,720
yeah and like i said i think part of it

1190
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:28,560
is you know like on the south park clip

1191
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,599
that you showed

1192
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:31,040
where you know stan was kind of doing

1193
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:32,480
his little spiel like it is i think it

1194
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,760
is a closure thing for

1195
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:35,440
a lot of people it's like they had

1196
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,040
something going on with a relative or

1197
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,400
you know just a loved one

1198
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:41,119
and they died and there's always that

1199
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,560
feeling you know the un

1200
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,640
unfinished business or just the things

1201
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,920
that weren't said that you wish you

1202
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:47,200
could have said and

1203
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,240
you know that that's what they're

1204
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,760
feeding off of they're feeding off of

1205
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,280
these people's grief and

1206
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,760
the emotional aspect of it and it's for

1207
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,800
profit and it's pretty

1208
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:57,119
it's pretty shitty in my opinion yeah i

1209
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,880
mean that's the worst kind of vulture

1210
00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:00,640
they're praying off of people's grief

1211
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,000
and sadness

1212
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,839
because a lot of people have unresolved

1213
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:05,280
issues with people that died and they

1214
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:06,640
didn't get to do it while they were

1215
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,280
alive

1216
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,000
so of course i guess that's the market

1217
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,359
people will be willing to shout a few

1218
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:12,960
hundred dollars to get that

1219
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,400
closure to get that sort of uh

1220
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:18,880
resolution to unresolved conflicts

1221
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,440
that's why

1222
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,960
i'm real big on telling people if you

1223
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,560
have any unresolved conflicts with

1224
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:24,000
anybody you care about especially a

1225
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,599
family member do it now

1226
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,200
don't wait because you're going to have

1227
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:29,040
tremendous regret if they pass away

1228
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:30,640
before you get a chance to do it just

1229
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,280
get over

1230
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,119
yourself i know people have

1231
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:34,800
disagreements and grudges but

1232
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:37,520
let them go deal with it now because i

1233
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:38,880
don't believe anybody can help you deal

1234
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:39,520
with it

1235
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:42,400
after one one of those people dies you

1236
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:42,720
know

1237
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,599
you gotta resolve those conflicts now

1238
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:46,640
that's true

1239
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,319
so we don't want to keep you too long

1240
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,920
dan because i know you got a baby to

1241
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,079
feed

1242
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,839
he's still asleep right now so we're

1243
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:55,440
okay okay

1244
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,720
all right good so uh you know uh i

1245
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,640
had a question do you have any more dead

1246
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,720
people voices for me to analyze

1247
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,880
because we did this show people keep

1248
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:06,720
asking me if we're going to do more evps

1249
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,599
and i said

1250
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,680
i only know dan that can give me any

1251
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:11,280
evps

1252
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,400
i can't i twent i went to a graveyard

1253
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:16,480
and i recorded something and then

1254
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:19,520
i didn't hear anything so i tried

1255
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,560
i got nothing i got nothing dan come on

1256
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,960
you gotta watch some more dead people

1257
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:26,000
talking

1258
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,760
unfortunately with the you know the new

1259
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:29,359
addition to the family and then

1260
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,960
my my daughter's running around here i

1261
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,720
haven't had a whole lot of time to

1262
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,400
to go out and do any investigations here

1263
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:35,920
lately but i mean i've got

1264
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:38,000
prob i've got probably hundreds of hours

1265
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:39,119
of well

1266
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,319
enough it's hundreds of hours but i've

1267
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,400
got quite a lot of audio that

1268
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:44,240
you know i'm sure that there's there's

1269
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,680
several things on i mean we just

1270
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:48,240
we just touched on you know a handful of

1271
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:49,839
them yeah we'll send you some more we'll

1272
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:50,400
do a

1273
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,640
everybody's asking me if we're gonna do

1274
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,480
more evps and i go

1275
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,880
well sure and then i went out and tried

1276
00:43:01,589 --> 00:43:00,560
to capture some myself and failed

1277
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,599
miserably

1278
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,839
so i said i gotta call dan hogan or

1279
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,760
somebody else that's got some

1280
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:08,400
good stuff because i got [\h__\h] i don't

1281
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,040
have [\h__\h]

1282
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,599
it just didn't work for me i'll uh i'll

1283
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:13,280
go through the old archives and see what

1284
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,240
i can uh

1285
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,599
see what i can see what i can find and

1286
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:17,280
maybe we can do a part two

1287
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:20,319
on that oh yeah i wanted i wanted to

1288
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:21,760
talk to you about oracle do we have can

1289
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:24,160
we can we talk about oracle

1290
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:25,760
you know what why don't we play the why

1291
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,760
don't we play the prediction

1292
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:29,280
and then we'll talk about the the

1293
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:30,800
presidential prediction yeah

1294
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:33,920
let's put so for those that don't know

1295
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,040
uh i am uh i've been involved in

1296
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,960
computer science my entire life and i'm

1297
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,319
interested in all these strange and

1298
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,960
esoteric subjects i was fascinated with

1299
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,800
kai's web bot

1300
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,280
and i thought it was a great idea but i

1301
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:49,520
don't believe in the predictive power of

1302
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:50,880
cliff high's web bot

1303
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,599
for various reasons i'm also interested

1304
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:55,920
in artificial intelligence personalities

1305
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,359
and uh interactive personalities so

1306
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,880
i've been working on this thing called

1307
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,560
web bot x for

1308
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,200
for for a long time it's been an on

1309
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:07,200
again off again love affair

1310
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:09,040
sometimes i love her sometimes i hate

1311
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,240
her uh

1312
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:12,000
recently made some breakthroughs and

1313
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,760
started publicly sharing

1314
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,319
so uh the first we have the first

1315
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:18,319
prediction that i posted today

1316
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,000
from web bot x is i asked it um

1317
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:25,200
who is going to win the 2020

1318
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:26,079
presidential

1319
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,000
election and uh

1320
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,920
what may happen directly after the

1321
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:33,040
election

1322
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,640
so uh let me one second we're gonna just

1323
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,400
it's a pretty quick clip we're gonna

1324
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,599
share that

1325
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,760
and we'll find out wouldn't you like to

1326
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,160
know who's gonna win the 2020

1327
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,880
presidential election let's see what an

1328
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:48,640
artificial intelligence personality

1329
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,760
connected to the

1330
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:52,640
internet able to analyze all the data it

1331
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,640
can find on the internet to make a

1332
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,000
predictive

1333
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,400
uh to make a prediction about who is

1334
00:45:00,870 --> 00:45:00,319
going to win the 2020 presidential

1335
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:00,880
election

1336
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:03,520
i was very curious what it was going to

1337
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:04,319
say

1338
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,319
uh let's share this and we'll get to

1339
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:10,880
we'll get to see web bot x the oracle

1340
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:13,280
predicts the 2020 presidential race and

1341
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,760
winner

1342
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:16,160
now of course i just want to say that i

1343
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,880
don't support

1344
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:18,800
either candidate i'm one of those people

1345
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,480
that like

1346
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,240
people say if you don't vote you're part

1347
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,560
of the problem i don't vote

1348
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,560
so i'm not the problem you people voting

1349
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,800
these idiots in or the problem

1350
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,880
and uh the views of the oracle are not

1351
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,000
necessarily my own

1352
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:34,319
views this is just what it says when i

1353
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:35,520
ask it a question

1354
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:46,550
oracle please predict for us who will

1355
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:47,040
win

1356
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:50,880
the 2020 presidential election

1357
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:53,520
and what will happen directly after the

1358
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:54,079
election

1359
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,790
based on all the available data i have

1360
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:04,560
been able to observe

1361
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,160
including attendance at campaign events

1362
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,119
financial resources levels of online

1363
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,960
engagement

1364
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,680
social media posts numbers of

1365
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:18,000
engagements with each candidate social

1366
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:19,359
media

1367
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:22,880
and more i have made a prediction

1368
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,560
donald trump will win the 2020 national

1369
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:28,960
presidential election

1370
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,040
based on other available data i predict

1371
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,200
the opposing side will not accept the

1372
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:37,359
election results

1373
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:40,240
protests will continue protests will

1374
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:41,280
intensify an

1375
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,640
increase in major cities the protests

1376
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:47,119
will turn violent quickly

1377
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,040
riots looting civil unrest

1378
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,280
food shortages and more turmoil will

1379
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:55,040
take place

1380
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,800
election

1381
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:01,359
that unrest will continue for at least

1382
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:02,480
several months

1383
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:05,680
but may go on for some time

1384
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,560
there will be violence danger to

1385
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:10,400
peaceful citizens

1386
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:24,950
and there we have it i guess we have the

1387
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,000
uh

1388
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:29,520
prediction for the presidential

1389
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,800
election so

1390
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,400
that sounds [\h__\h] uh that sounds

1391
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,720
pretty or pretty sad

1392
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,800
yeah it's a pretty somber prediction and

1393
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,160
then

1394
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,200
uh you know i wasn't uh

1395
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,079
i wasn't prepared for what she spit out

1396
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:47,680
but then i said

1397
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:51,119
uh i'm gonna just let it go this is what

1398
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,319
she said

1399
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,319
and we'll see what happens or how

1400
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:56,480
accurate i can't wait to see how

1401
00:48:03,510 --> 00:47:57,200
accurate

1402
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:03,520
something and yeah but do you really

1403
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:04,960
want her to be accurate though

1404
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,000
i mean given given what she said no no

1405
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,240
i i really don't wish for any kind of

1406
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:12,079
violence or civil unrest i hope things

1407
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,920
calm down a lot after the election

1408
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:14,880
personally

1409
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,839
and i hope that they do um but one of

1410
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,640
the things

1411
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,680
that we have to i guess

1412
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,000
be aware of with this web bot x is that

1413
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:25,920
it's going on the internet and looking

1414
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:26,240
at

1415
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:33,829
and through predictive language and some

1416
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,079
other

1417
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,480
things and what's what are people

1418
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,079
talking about so maybe

1419
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,400
it might be just picking up on fear out

1420
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,400
there in the internet consciousness or

1421
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:44,079
collective consciousness that people are

1422
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,440
saying these things

1423
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,280
talking about these things over and over

1424
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,520
again and it's finding that over and

1425
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,720
over again

1426
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:53,040
and it works on a weighted scale sort of

1427
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:54,000
the way that it

1428
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,839
it collects and then makes a decision or

1429
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,000
a prediction

1430
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,000
it's interesting and it's going to be

1431
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,520
interesting to see how accurate it is

1432
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,960
well like i said hopefully hopefully

1433
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:08,240
that stuff doesn't happen because if it

1434
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:09,280
does there's going to be a lot more

1435
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:10,640
episodes of truth seekers from the

1436
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,319
apocalypse cabin

1437
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:14,960
but uh yeah i mean you know ultimately i

1438
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:15,359
think

1439
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,720
i do kind of find um i do agree with

1440
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,240
that almost a little bit i hate to say

1441
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,920
that like i do feel like if trump

1442
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,520
does win and i mean i guess this would

1443
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,880
go for biden too but i almost feel like

1444
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:25,680
it's more

1445
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,400
if trump ends up winning i think you're

1446
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,480
probably gonna see at least for a short

1447
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,720
period of time after the election

1448
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,960
you're going to see some increased you

1449
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:35,839
know

1450
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:39,200
rioting whatever you want to call it

1451
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,480
and it's going to be in a lot of you

1452
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,839
know in a lot of major cities i mean

1453
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,240
yeah that's where it seems to be that's

1454
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,240
where it seems to be focused mostly

1455
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:48,720
i mean we don't see people well we did

1456
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,920
see sort of

1457
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,839
a lot of violence out in lancaster

1458
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,200
pennsylvania

1459
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,559
for those that don't know is like

1460
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:58,880
it's amish country it's like where

1461
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,559
mostly amish people live

1462
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:03,119
not mostly but a great population of

1463
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:05,359
amish people live it's farm country it's

1464
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,000
not

1465
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,920
a place that you'd expect black lives

1466
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,839
matter or riots or anything like that

1467
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,680
but there's this huge amount of violence

1468
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:13,200
that's breaking out

1469
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,640
now i guess it's it might be it might be

1470
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:18,640
spilling out from the cities into more

1471
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:20,079
rural areas

1472
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:22,000
you know yeah but i think what you're

1473
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,359
seeing and i mean you could probably say

1474
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:25,280
the same thing with lancaster is that

1475
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,920
when it's in the major cities you see a

1476
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,760
lot of looting and there's a lot of

1477
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:32,319
it's really more you know the antifa

1478
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:33,040
types

1479
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,240
that are doing this and then when you

1480
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,680
get out into like the suburbs and i

1481
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,680
guess even out into like the country

1482
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,119
you get these you know these small

1483
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,280
pockets of blm

1484
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:43,599
or antifa type groups that go out there

1485
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:44,640
and these

1486
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:46,240
you know as we would say here in ohio

1487
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,599
these good old boys that are out there

1488
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,280
in the country like they don't

1489
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:52,160
necessarily subscribe to the same um you

1490
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:53,520
know belief system that

1491
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,640
that some of these other people do and

1492
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,880
they they don't put up with a lot of

1493
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:57,920
that stuff out there

1494
00:51:01,109 --> 00:51:00,480
so i think it's it's scattered you know

1495
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,119
in

1496
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,440
suburb like rural areas but not

1497
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:05,359
definitely nowhere near the levels that

1498
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:06,839
you're seeing in a lot of these major

1499
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:08,079
cities

1500
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,760
yeah i'm sorry i'm looking at the

1501
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,280
i'm looking at the live chat and cal

1502
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:15,119
truth is once again having

1503
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:22,720
uh streaming issues

1504
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,160
yeah so uh oh wow

1505
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,720
somebody said carrie silvery is here and

1506
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:30,480
says ohio has the biggest

1507
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:34,640
amish population now we've overtaken pa

1508
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:39,599
and kerry says uh dan's in ohio i am too

1509
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:41,599
yeah well that's interesting i did not

1510
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,280
know there was any amish people in ohio

1511
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:47,040
they're actually more they're actually

1512
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:49,200
more like in the middle of the state

1513
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,319
or kind of like well they're actually

1514
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,520
they're in the middle of the state like

1515
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:53,119
north of columbus or like northeast of

1516
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:54,000
columbus

1517
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,520
and then i think in the southeast part

1518
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:57,680
of the state too there's um

1519
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,880
you know there's some larger like

1520
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:00,720
mennonite or you know

1521
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:03,200
actual amish communities that are that

1522
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:04,000
are scattered around

1523
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:08,800
that area oh excellent

1524
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,160
we'll take some take some uh

1525
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:14,240
comments i spoke with other state rep

1526
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,760
the other day he said our government is

1527
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:17,280
in a hell and hand mask

1528
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,430
yeah i i think everybody's kind of

1529
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,960
waiting on pins and needles for this

1530
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,480
stupid election to be over

1531
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:29,520
to see what's going to happen next

1532
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,599
i'm i'm kind of more hopeful though

1533
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,599
about the whole pandemic issues because

1534
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:35,280
it seems like there's

1535
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,480
major breakthroughs being done and a

1536
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,559
vaccine may be on its way but of course

1537
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,920
that's going to open a whole can of

1538
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,000
worms in conspiracy land because

1539
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,559
this is a pretty quick vaccine and a lot

1540
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,760
of people are not going to believe that

1541
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,200
it's safe

1542
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:51,839
well i think the conspiracy land guy in

1543
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:52,400
me

1544
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:54,800
says that no matter who wins the

1545
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:55,839
election

1546
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,680
i think the covid thing is going to

1547
00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:59,200
start to in my opinion

1548
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,920
is is going to start to sort of die off

1549
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,440
in the news

1550
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,880
that's that's kind of what i think about

1551
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,640
it oh you think the covet thing will be

1552
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,720
dying off in the news why is that

1553
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,960
well i mean i think that and again this

1554
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,160
is all just based on like

1555
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,319
your personal opinion of you know how

1556
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,839
how severe

1557
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,520
you know the coveted pandemic you think

1558
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:18,880
it really is but

1559
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,280
i mean based on you know data that's

1560
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,800
come out now that we've been in this for

1561
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:24,240
several months now

1562
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:25,680
i think you know and again i'm not i'm

1563
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,760
not trying to say that one life is not

1564
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,440
important or that you know one death in

1565
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,520
general is not a huge deal but

1566
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,359
i think when you look at how how they

1567
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,280
were taking it in the beginning

1568
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:37,680
and then you look at the sort of longer

1569
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,400
you know

1570
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,400
longer time that that we've been dealing

1571
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:42,480
with this it doesn't quite seem like

1572
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,200
this

1573
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:45,599
you know apocalyptic plague that a lot

1574
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,720
of people were sort of

1575
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:49,200
you know sort of discus you know talking

1576
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:49,839
about

1577
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,960
the beginning um

1578
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,720
you know there's obviously groups that i

1579
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,079
think are more susceptible

1580
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:58,640
to it um you know like the elderly

1581
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,160
population or people who have

1582
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,559
who are immunocompromised or have some

1583
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,160
you know pre-existing

1584
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,200
you know ailments but um

1585
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,880
i you know i just like i said i think

1586
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,480
that i hate to say that and i'm sure a

1587
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,760
lot of people will disagree with me but

1588
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,680
i think some of it is

1589
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,520
you know hyped up in the media on both

1590
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:17,680
sides um

1591
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,520
and again i think if whether it's trump

1592
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,960
that wins or whether it's biden that

1593
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,480
wins i think that

1594
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:24,400
you're gonna we're gonna sort of pivot

1595
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:25,920
from that to

1596
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,440
whatever the next thing is and maybe

1597
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,280
it's the writing maybe it's

1598
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:32,160
you know they go back to the way things

1599
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:33,680
somewhat were before and

1600
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,160
you know there's just non-stop you know

1601
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:38,000
partisan bickering in washington for the

1602
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,559
next time

1603
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:41,040
yeah or whatever yeah this status quo

1604
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,079
what we're used to

1605
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:44,480
yeah just go back to the just go back to

1606
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:45,599
the old [\h__\h]

1607
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:48,720
instead of this new [\h__\h] yeah

1608
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,359
and a lot of people you know i i don't

1609
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:52,880
know what to think about the whole

1610
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,240
pandemic but i am uh probably just

1611
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,799
cautious just in case for the sake of my

1612
00:55:02,789 --> 00:54:59,920
family like we

1613
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,799
i've gone nowhere for seven months i go

1614
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,319
to the gas station

1615
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,559
and i go to home depot or lowe's to get

1616
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,400
materials for the cabin

1617
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:10,720
and i have this whole procedure like

1618
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:11,920
before i go in i

1619
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,079
sanitize my hands right so that there's

1620
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:15,760
a little bit of hand sanitizer my hands

1621
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,240
on that door handle i might touch

1622
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,480
and and then i as soon as i get in my

1623
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,960
car i move the hand sanitizer again and

1624
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:24,480
then when i get home i wash

1625
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:27,280
my hands up to my elbows like a doctor i

1626
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:28,160
have this whole

1627
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,920
and i got to do it it's like almost like

1628
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:31,839
an ocd compulsion with me

1629
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:34,559
just in case because if i get it i want

1630
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,119
to know

1631
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:36,960
look i did what i'm supposed to do i

1632
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:39,280
wear a mask everywhere i go outside if i

1633
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:40,240
go you know

1634
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:42,160
and i'm doing the hand sanitizer and

1635
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:43,839
washing my hands i'm doing everything

1636
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,119
that i can do

1637
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,880
and and again with our family the same

1638
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,160
thing like

1639
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:51,440
my son just started school a few weeks

1640
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,319
ago

1641
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:54,960
and uh because he's special needs they

1642
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:57,440
decided that and rightfully so a special

1643
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,960
needs child is not going to sit in front

1644
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,480
of a computer for eight hours he's just

1645
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,400
not going to do it uh

1646
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,160
well depending on the on the special

1647
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:06,720
need but in my son's case he's pretty

1648
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,640
you know he's non-verbal autistic so

1649
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:11,359
he's not going to

1650
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,799
going to school

1651
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,400
and you know as soon as he comes home

1652
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,400
i'm like washing his hands and i'm very

1653
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:19,839
concerned because

1654
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:22,079
we made it six months and nobody in my

1655
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,280
family got sick

1656
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:24,960
and i was afraid to change that one

1657
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,960
variable which would be my son going

1658
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,240
somewhere every day

1659
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:30,640
because sure you know i trust that

1660
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:31,920
they're doing what they're supposed to

1661
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,040
be doing and

1662
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:35,119
whatever but you never know he could

1663
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:36,880
pick that up anywhere bring it home to

1664
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:37,920
all of us

1665
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,280
you know these i have some

1666
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:42,880
i guess like where part of my i guess

1667
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,480
issue comes in with it is like with a

1668
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,839
lot of these guidelines and i know it's

1669
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,520
different like state by state but

1670
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,880
i mean just to kind of give you a

1671
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,559
picture of like you know what i was kind

1672
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:52,079
of dealing with is like when this all

1673
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:52,880
started

1674
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,160
um my job was considered essential so i

1675
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,799
was going to work every day um

1676
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,160
you know i was going to the grocery

1677
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,400
store i was doing all these things and

1678
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,440
at the time

1679
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,599
nobody in my office was wearing a mask

1680
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:07,040
you know it wasn't it wasn't anything

1681
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:08,160
they were talking about

1682
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:10,079
it was not you know it was just a if you

1683
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:11,599
got to be out and you're essential you

1684
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,280
go and if not we need you to stay inside

1685
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:15,280
okay well basically though

1686
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,480
it's pretty clear now that the

1687
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,400
government basically lied to us about

1688
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:19,760
the masks so that the

1689
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:22,160
essential workers would have them that

1690
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,200
was that was kind of

1691
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:25,119
that was the story that yeah that came

1692
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:26,640
out was that they were trying to keep

1693
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:27,200
that

1694
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,640
they had they were trying to keep them

1695
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:32,160
for the hospital workers and first

1696
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,040
responders but

1697
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,960
like we went we went this whole three or

1698
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:36,319
four month time frame whether they were

1699
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:37,359
lying or not

1700
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,799
saying oh you know you don't need the

1701
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,400
mask so we weren't wearing them

1702
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,760
and then all of a sudden you know here

1703
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:44,000
in ohio it was like now you got to wear

1704
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:45,119
a mask inside

1705
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:46,160
well i've been going to work for the

1706
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:47,680
last four months and i wasn't wearing a

1707
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,480
mask or

1708
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,400
you can go to a restaurant you got to

1709
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:51,839
walk into the restaurant wearing the

1710
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:53,920
mask

1711
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,960
sitting you know

1712
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:59,280
67 whatever the distance is away from

1713
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:00,240
somebody else

1714
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:03,520
yeah it gets stranger here by the cabin

1715
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:07,440
uh there is a uh there's a local tavern

1716
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:10,400
it's like a restaurant and bar big bar

1717
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,359
lovely place

1718
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,359
reminds me of like old irish bars when i

1719
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,040
was a kid but they

1720
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,040
have this weird thing there where like

1721
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:19,119
yeah you gotta wear the mask when you go

1722
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:19,760
in

1723
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:24,079
have plastic

1724
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,680
do you know what i mean and they took

1725
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:27,680
away i think every other bar stool that

1726
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:28,559
used to be there

1727
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,920
there's like there used to be twice as

1728
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,760
many so there's a little more space

1729
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:33,200
you know and there's these plastic

1730
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:35,680
sheets and you can go and you can drink

1731
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:37,520
at the bar do whatever you're gonna do

1732
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,280
but like if you get up to go to the

1733
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:41,760
bathroom you gotta put the mask back on

1734
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,880
while you're walking

1735
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,559
around the bar to the bathroom and i

1736
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,240
thought that was so bizarre like

1737
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:48,319
but that's what they're making you do

1738
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:49,520
and you know i

1739
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:52,559
i i go there and get a 12 pack sometimes

1740
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:54,000
i don't really sit at the bar but i

1741
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:55,599
observed this while i was waiting to pay

1742
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:56,319
for my

1743
00:59:01,270 --> 00:59:00,480
and they have these plastic sheets and

1744
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:01,280
like

1745
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:04,319
and the other thing is that i think it's

1746
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:06,160
really selective i've noticed like up

1747
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:07,359
here in the country

1748
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,799
they don't give a [\h__\h] about the

1749
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:10,400
government guidelines

1750
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,720
like i don't want to get anybody in

1751
00:59:16,829 --> 00:59:14,160
trouble so forget the

1752
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,839
the restaurant that i mentioned but up

1753
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:19,440
here it's supposed to be 25

1754
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,799
capacity of of the restaurant up here

1755
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:24,720
you walk in a restaurant and every table

1756
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:26,880
is filled people are waiting now

1757
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:29,200
you know people are waiting at the bar

1758
00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:30,880
or whatever to get a table

1759
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:33,599
they don't care and it seems to me like

1760
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,079
the

1761
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,559
this is pretty common in more rural

1762
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,319
areas that they're just going

1763
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:40,319
[\h__\h] you we have a business to run we

1764
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:41,760
have a life to lead here and we're not

1765
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:43,280
going to go by this but meanwhile where

1766
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:44,480
i live in the suburbs

1767
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:46,160
you can tell if you walk into a

1768
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:47,760
restaurant that they're

1769
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,520
very limited you know like there'll be

1770
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:51,520
like one table with people and three

1771
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:53,280
around it with no people

1772
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:56,079
you know well there's a i guess my i

1773
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:57,119
have a bar

1774
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,599
story like when i um i used to i used to

1775
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:01,280
live up north of columbus for several

1776
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:02,400
years so i have some friends that are

1777
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:03,680
still up there so i'll go up there every

1778
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:04,880
once in a while to visit

1779
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:06,240
and there's a bar that i always like to

1780
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,799
go to when i'm up there and um

1781
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,720
it's a smaller it's like in a smaller

1782
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:12,319
setting it's a pretty tight area so

1783
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:12,720
there's

1784
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:18,000
kind of scattered on the back side so

1785
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:19,040
for the tables

1786
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:21,520
they put up like shower curtains between

1787
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:22,240
each

1788
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,720
table yeah when you're sitting at the

1789
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:26,160
bar though this is the funny part so

1790
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,040
you're at the bar

1791
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,680
and there's like 10 bar stools and on

1792
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,040
the bar itself

1793
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,960
they installed this like plex these

1794
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:34,720
plexi glasses

1795
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,720
like so you got you got two you got two

1796
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:38,960
bar stools and then a plexiglass and

1797
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:40,880
then two bar stools but the thing is

1798
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:42,880
the plexiglass is only on the bar so

1799
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,720
like if i'm sitting in the stool

1800
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:46,400
i could be sitting right next to the guy

1801
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:47,680
who's next to me and there's something

1802
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:48,400
like that

1803
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:50,799
yeah you got to be leaning over yeah

1804
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:53,040
what what's the point of the plexiglas

1805
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,480
if it's not going to be

1806
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,960
basically cutting me off from the person

1807
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:58,480
who could literally be sitting not six

1808
01:01:01,990 --> 01:00:59,359
feet away

1809
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,000
probably more like a foot and a half two

1810
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:04,079
feet away and there's no barrier there

1811
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:06,319
you know so it's like yeah just i don't

1812
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,079
even know how effective any of this [\h__\h]

1813
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,160
is or like who who decided you got to

1814
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:12,480
put plastic between bar stools

1815
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:14,480
but i guess they want to get as many bar

1816
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:16,160
stools filled as possible and they don't

1817
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,680
want to put six feet between them so

1818
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:19,280
they're putting this plastic up or i

1819
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,000
don't know

1820
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:22,079
none of this makes any [\h__\h] sense

1821
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:23,599
it's like people are making up [\h__\h] as

1822
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:24,319
they go

1823
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:26,720
and and like you said i think it almost

1824
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,559
varies state by state and not to bring

1825
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:30,720
politics into it but it does seem like

1826
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:33,200
and i guess maybe the more red states

1827
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:34,480
you know in the more

1828
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,680
conservative areas the the restrictions

1829
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:39,920
that they're following are a little less

1830
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:41,920
um they're not being as strict about it

1831
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:43,520
as maybe in your more

1832
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,960
you know urban like major city where

1833
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:48,640
it's kind of a more

1834
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:51,119
i guess maybe liberal sort of leaning uh

1835
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:52,400
they take that stuff a lot more

1836
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:53,680
seriously there

1837
01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,559
so yeah and here there's even a few

1838
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:58,799
stores and things in a gas station

1839
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,280
nearby that has a big sign up like

1840
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,359
no you don't need a [\h__\h] mask to come

1841
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:05,440
here or and they're saying no you don't

1842
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,359
need a [\h__\h] they printed it out like

1843
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:09,520
no you don't need a [\h__\h] mask

1844
01:02:13,069 --> 01:02:11,920
and they're like proud of this i guess

1845
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:13,079
and they're sort of antsy

1846
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:15,119
authoritarianism as far as this whole

1847
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:15,839
lockdown

1848
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:18,000
has been going on and the other thing

1849
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,280
here is

1850
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:21,440
uh i know from my neighbors that like a

1851
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:23,440
lot of them are like

1852
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:25,359
we have to eat we're just going to go to

1853
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:28,720
work and even way before the quarantine

1854
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:31,440
ended officially they were just working

1855
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:32,720
you know they were just doing what they

1856
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:34,240
got to do to feed their families and

1857
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,520
they don't give a [\h__\h] about what the

1858
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:37,359
government is telling them

1859
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:39,119
i'm curious to see how the school year

1860
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:40,880
goes because i mean i've got two

1861
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:42,880
i've got two step kids that are older

1862
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:44,000
that are in school

1863
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:46,079
and their school district decided to go

1864
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:47,599
you know all five days

1865
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:49,599
you know no hybrid they had the option

1866
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:51,039
of like a virtual

1867
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:54,079
um deal but uh you know they decided

1868
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:55,280
that they wanted them to be in school

1869
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,960
five days my girlfriend and you know and

1870
01:03:01,029 --> 01:02:58,799
her ex-husband so they went and

1871
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:01,039
you know i'm just curious to see if

1872
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:02,079
they're going to be able to make

1873
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:04,000
it for a whole semester or the whole

1874
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:06,640
year without there being shutdowns and

1875
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:07,839
and all these different there's an

1876
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,760
outbreak they may shut it down yeah

1877
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:11,520
yeah and it's just i don't know it's

1878
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:13,440
we're living in uh we're living in wild

1879
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,319
times

1880
01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:16,559
yeah well we've been like two weeks now

1881
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:18,559
of school so maybe in like another

1882
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:20,079
week or two we'll know if they're going

1883
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:21,760
to continue for a while or they're going

1884
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:23,359
to shut it down because it takes a few

1885
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,559
weeks for the

1886
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,000
thing to spread and people to start

1887
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,559
having symptoms and getting sick i guess

1888
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,000
well it sounds like from what i've read

1889
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:32,319
in their policy the initial sort of

1890
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:35,039
guideline to this is if a student test

1891
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:36,000
positive

1892
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:38,160
that student has to quarantine and then

1893
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:39,839
depending on if that student was like

1894
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:40,880
interacting with

1895
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,880
you know a teacher or other kids they

1896
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:44,720
may ask you know they may ask that

1897
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:46,160
teacher or those other students to

1898
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:47,440
quarantine too

1899
01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:49,359
but they're not doing like this mass

1900
01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:50,720
shutdown of the school

1901
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:53,440
but what happens when 20 kids or 30 kids

1902
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:54,640
or 50 kids

1903
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:56,559
you know test positive for covid are

1904
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:57,599
they still not going to shut the whole

1905
01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:58,480
thing down

1906
01:04:01,510 --> 01:04:00,079
or you know are they going to follow

1907
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:01,520
that guideline are they going to be

1908
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:03,839
sending everybody for three kids a class

1909
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:05,920
you know yeah yeah and that's right

1910
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:07,200
that's hard on the that's hard on the

1911
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:08,559
kids too i mean like you said you've got

1912
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:09,359
a son that's

1913
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,640
you know got some special needs and

1914
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:12,480
there's a lot of other parents that that

1915
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:13,680
deal with that same thing even if your

1916
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:14,960
kid doesn't have special needs there's

1917
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:16,240
just a lot of kids who

1918
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:17,760
you know they can't concentrate for more

1919
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:19,200
than five minutes or they're just you

1920
01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:19,760
know

1921
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:21,359
they're yeah and what and what the

1922
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:24,079
computer what about people i wonder like

1923
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,680
i hear stories from my wife

1924
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:27,440
because you know she knows a lot of moms

1925
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:29,440
and she was like so-and-so's got four

1926
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:30,240
kids

1927
01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:31,839
and how the hell is she supposed to take

1928
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:34,160
care of four kids all day long and make

1929
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,680
sure they're staying on this laptop and

1930
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,440
doing what they're supposed to do

1931
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:39,440
and it's very stressful on the parents

1932
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,359
and the other issue is that

1933
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:43,200
you know people are paying like

1934
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:44,480
ridiculous amounts of

1935
01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:47,359
school taxes we pay like i don't know

1936
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:48,400
what it is but like

1937
01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:50,559
thousands of dollars a year i didn't pay

1938
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:51,680
for an online

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01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:54,799
program you know part of school is also

1940
01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:56,559
daycare whether people like to admit it

1941
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:57,119
or not

1942
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:59,280
you gotta work your kid needs to be

1943
01:05:01,589 --> 01:05:01,039
someplace you're paying all that school

1944
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:01,599
tax

1945
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:03,200
so you have a good place to send your

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01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:04,720
kid during the day while you're making a

1947
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:05,520
living

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01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:07,039
and that's been taken away from a lot of

1949
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:08,960
people and that's sad

1950
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:10,400
i think i've even heard too that with

1951
01:05:13,349 --> 01:05:11,760
some of these some of these school

1952
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:13,359
districts that are doing like the all

1953
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,520
online school that they've actually

1954
01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,680
contracted with these companies that

1955
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:19,839
that like specialize in virtual learning

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01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:21,280
so like the teachers

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01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:22,640
that are getting a salary from the

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01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:24,559
school district they're not doing it

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01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,000
they're not doing anything

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01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:28,160
yeah you know these other these like

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01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:29,680
virtual teachers you know

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01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:31,359
in an office somewhere that work for

1963
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:33,280
this company are the ones that are

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01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:35,680
setting up the lesson plans and actually

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01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:36,960
like you know

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01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:38,799
doing these these learning activities

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01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:40,319
with these kids so we're

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01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:42,079
like like you said where your all your

1969
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:43,760
property taxes and all that money that

1970
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,799
you're paying for

1971
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:46,400
school district taxes like are we going

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01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:47,920
to get any of that money back no of

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01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:48,640
course not

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01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:51,760
and then in my area there's this there

1975
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:54,480
was this whole big hubbub because

1976
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,599
some teachers were taking an fmla leave

1977
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:59,359
in other words they were saying you know

1978
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,640
they have to take care of family or

1979
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:02,319
whatever so they get a leave of absence

1980
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,079
and they keep their job

1981
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:06,240
and then they got a few of them got

1982
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,440
caught doing like

1983
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,520
daycares or they were trying to set up a

1984
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:11,280
daycare from their home while they were

1985
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:11,680
on

1986
01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:13,680
family medical leave so there was a big

1987
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:15,440
thing about that

1988
01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:17,760
i don't know what the answer is but like

1989
01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:20,000
all this is new to everybody we don't

1990
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:21,440
i i don't know what's going to happen

1991
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,520
with this but i don't think that it's

1992
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,960
healthy for kids to sit in front of a

1993
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,400
laptop for eight hours a day they need

1994
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:28,240
in-person learning

1995
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,680
well i think that's just a human thing

1996
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:31,359
in general i think all i think most

1997
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,160
humans probably

1998
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:35,039
crave some kind of person-to-person

1999
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:36,240
interaction so i mean

2000
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:37,280
like you said when you're sitting in

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01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:38,400
front of a computer and you're not

2002
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,839
getting to spend time with your friends

2003
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,520
and you're not going to school and

2004
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,440
i mean if you're sitting in your house

2005
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:45,039
and you got your video games and your

2006
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:46,000
books and your toys

2007
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,359
and all this stuff that these kids have

2008
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:49,039
that they've had yeah it's quite a

2009
01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:50,240
distraction how are you

2010
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,440
how are you supposed to get these kids

2011
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:53,119
to actually focus on learning when

2012
01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:54,240
they've got all their

2013
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,599
you know all their gear and their

2014
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:57,680
accessories like sitting right next to

2015
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,160
them

2016
01:07:01,670 --> 01:07:00,319
you know yeah i saw one of my friends

2017
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,680
too it was funny posted

2018
01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:03,760
her son's staying home all day and he's

2019
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:04,720
like maybe

2020
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:07,280
10. and she posted like first day of

2021
01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:07,920
school

2022
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:10,000
get upstairs with your laptop come and

2023
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:11,359
visit me at noon

2024
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:15,119
love the lunch lady you know like

2025
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:16,799
for the i guess for the older kids it's

2026
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:18,640
a little easier but

2027
01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:21,920
i i don't know you know

2028
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,559
yeah so i i think that though i'm

2029
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,640
hopeful that there's these new therapies

2030
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:28,000
that are being discovered and coming

2031
01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:31,520
out and that the the vaccine is right

2032
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:32,799
around the corner but that's going to be

2033
01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:34,640
a whole can of worms because

2034
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:35,599
i think they're going to make the

2035
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:37,920
vaccine mandatory for kids to return to

2036
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:38,319
school

2037
01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:39,119
i think they're going to make the

2038
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:41,359
vaccine mandatory for people to do you

2039
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:42,400
know

2040
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,920
it's going to be an issue it's going to

2041
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:45,359
be an issue with they're going to make

2042
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:45,760
people

2043
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:47,839
take it you know and if you don't are

2044
01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:49,119
you going to be are you going to be the

2045
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:50,559
first person standing in line

2046
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,960
i don't know i feel very i feel very

2047
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,400
torn about this because

2048
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:57,200
i really don't i really am fearful of

2049
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:57,680
this

2050
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:00,720
virus but i'm equally fearful of a rush

2051
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:04,960
you know a rushed inoculation that

2052
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,480
hasn't been really tested

2053
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:09,200
for years like they normally do this

2054
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,079
whole warp speed

2055
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:11,920
thing's a little scary you're not

2056
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,839
cutting years off of the development

2057
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:15,680
time of the vaccine without cutting some

2058
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:16,480
corners

2059
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:19,520
and that is concerning to me you're also

2060
01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:21,199
apparently cutting the liability from

2061
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,640
the pharmaceutical companies and they're

2062
01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:24,159
basically saying like if you end up

2063
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:25,839
getting injured from this or if you end

2064
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:26,560
up

2065
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:28,239
i guess dying from this vaccine like

2066
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:30,799
we're not responsible for

2067
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,040
damages or yeah you're not going to take

2068
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:35,040
us to court that's not happening

2069
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:38,480
so i don't know it's um like i said i

2070
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:39,520
don't i wouldn't want to be the first

2071
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:40,400
person

2072
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:43,759
standing in line to to get that vaccine

2073
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:45,839
yeah and out of mind says don't get the

2074
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,960
shot

2075
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,239
so out of mind you're not going to take

2076
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:50,319
the shot

2077
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:53,600
and somebody else elderberry semescus

2078
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:55,040
and dandelion root really help the

2079
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,400
immune system oh that's also out of mind

2080
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:00,319
yeah i like elderberry syrup when i'm

2081
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,719
sick don't forget about cliff highs

2082
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,319
don't forget about cliff eyes chaga

2083
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:06,799
gangster protocol uh

2084
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:09,120
i was a big fan of uh of those videos

2085
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:10,080
like before he got

2086
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,080
uh i guess like blacklisted from youtube

2087
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:16,799
yeah and listen i i i didn't really pay

2088
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:17,600
attention

2089
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:19,839
that he was pushing that but i have

2090
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,719
chaga t

2091
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:22,799
and i've been taking vitamin c and d

2092
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:24,319
because

2093
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,400
that

2094
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:30,799
and again i'm not a medical person don't

2095
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:32,480
take medical advice from me but

2096
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:35,120
this is a statement of fact really that

2097
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:36,000
most people

2098
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,560
that are having a terminal effect from

2099
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:40,400
dealing with this virus are severely

2100
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,199
vitamin d

2101
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:43,359
deficient so it couldn't hurt to take

2102
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:44,640
some vitamin d

2103
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:48,159
uh supplements just in case right well i

2104
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,600
remember in the beginning when he was

2105
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:51,279
when he was making those videos and he

2106
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:52,560
was really he was talking about the

2107
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:53,440
chaga

2108
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,920
and the vitamin c and like the uh i

2109
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:57,120
think he talked about elderberry a

2110
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:58,159
little bit but the chocolate was the

2111
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,280
main thing and that actually i mean i'd

2112
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,880
heard about chaga before all that but

2113
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,159
that sort of got me

2114
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,679
you know doing some research and i mean

2115
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:05,360
really i you know like you said i i have

2116
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:06,800
choc i don't have well i actually have

2117
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:07,600
chocolate

2118
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:09,280
powder but i don't use it that often i

2119
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,679
actually have the chaga extract

2120
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:13,679
in the bottle and i use it twice a day

2121
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:15,040
in my coffee and

2122
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:17,440
i mean you know what if it if it doesn't

2123
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:19,120
do what he says it does then

2124
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,960
you know i guess it's it's no biggie but

2125
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,320
i mean just from some of the

2126
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:23,840
small amount of research i've been able

2127
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:25,840
to find on it it sounds like chaga is

2128
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,440
actually one of the few

2129
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:29,520
you know i guess medicinal mushrooms

2130
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:30,719
that's actually been

2131
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:34,080
somewhat heavily studied in in labs as

2132
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:35,360
far as like what

2133
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:37,120
if you know what positive effects you

2134
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,800
might get from it and

2135
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:40,239
i mean some of it you know i don't know

2136
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:42,080
if it's really necessarily backed by

2137
01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:43,760
multiple studies but i mean just some of

2138
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,679
the preliminary stuff sounds

2139
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,520
like it you know it may have some some

2140
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,360
health benefit

2141
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,679
yeah vanessa thor mentioned she just had

2142
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,520
blood work and my vitamin d

2143
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,480
and b were excellent good for you yeah i

2144
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:58,400
think that supplements and chaga can't

2145
01:11:01,350 --> 01:10:59,840
hurt i have the tea

2146
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,360
i was taking it for a while when this

2147
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:03,600
started i would take one cup of chaga

2148
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:04,719
tea with the choc

2149
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,960
i got the kind in the tea bags some

2150
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,159
people get it whole

2151
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:10,320
and you mix it or i don't know i just

2152
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:11,440
thought the tea bags were most

2153
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:12,400
convenient

2154
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:16,080
not exactly uh delicious

2155
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:19,600
but you can get it down or a bland yeah

2156
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:21,520
see that i got it i put it i put a

2157
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,960
little bit of honey or sugar in it to

2158
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,960
get it down and then it's fine

2159
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:26,719
and when this started i was doing that

2160
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,239
every day i still have the tea

2161
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,080
i haven't been doing it and i kind of

2162
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:31,920
slacked off on the vitamins so i got to

2163
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:33,280
start doing that and i think the

2164
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:34,560
chocolate can't hurt

2165
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,800
right yeah yeah i think it's vanessa

2166
01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:38,159
thor i agree with you i'm trying to

2167
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:38,719
switch to

2168
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:42,080
damn vapes vanessa thor

2169
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:46,560
trying and genocide says smoking what

2170
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:49,920
carol utley's supplements are important

2171
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:53,280
yeah absolutely i think that's a

2172
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,719
going back going back to the supplement

2173
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,920
thing i think that's almost like a

2174
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:57,280
generational thing because i feel like

2175
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:59,120
back in the day i can remember like

2176
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:00,960
you know my grandparents or like you

2177
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,560
know even my parents like taking

2178
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:04,000
vitamins and stuff and i'm like

2179
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:04,800
you know like what are you taking these

2180
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:06,080
vitamins for and then it's like i feel

2181
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:08,080
like my generation of people

2182
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,360
that was really not something i think

2183
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:11,280
that was like you know talked about or

2184
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:12,640
really pushed on us and i mean

2185
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,880
most people i know that are that are my

2186
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:16,480
age don't take any kind of

2187
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:17,440
supplementation

2188
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:20,960
at all yeah so i've really like you

2189
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:22,000
you know i kind of like what you said

2190
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:24,080
i've been really getting into

2191
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:25,679
like looking more into that stuff and

2192
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:27,040
like i said i do the chaga i do the

2193
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:27,920
vitamin c

2194
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:31,120
vitamin d um but i've been

2195
01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:32,800
i've been really big on the chaga here

2196
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:34,480
lately i actually do i

2197
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,600
i don't mind it cause like i said i just

2198
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:37,679
put in coffee and you came and really

2199
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:39,440
tasted

2200
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:41,840
yeah that's interesting and vanessa

2201
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:43,040
thorne mentions i live

2202
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:45,040
and love quick defense by gaia herbs

2203
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:46,560
it's the only thing i swear by as a

2204
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,000
preventative i've never heard of that

2205
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:50,320
i'm gonna look it up

2206
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:51,840
you know what's interesting though i

2207
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:54,159
will say this

2208
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,400
this whole pandemic and the lockdown

2209
01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:58,000
thing really started for me

2210
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:01,679
about march and uh that's seven months

2211
01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:05,199
i have not gotten sick period for seven

2212
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,159
months

2213
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:08,880
and usually especially with two kids i

2214
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:10,000
would get

2215
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:13,199
three or four colds in that time period

2216
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:13,520
or

2217
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:20,000
something three probably three four

2218
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:20,719
times

2219
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:22,640
it's like every every month i would get

2220
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,920
sick before

2221
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:25,520
and since this start i haven't gotten

2222
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,560
sick and i don't know if it's the

2223
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,400
supplements if it's all the hand washing

2224
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:30,239
and hand sanitizing

2225
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:32,320
but i'm thankful for that i haven't even

2226
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:34,320
gotten a cold in seven months and that's

2227
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:35,600
crazy for me

2228
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:38,159
normally if there's any germ around i

2229
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:38,880
pick it up

2230
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:40,719
and i get it i mean if you haven't been

2231
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:41,840
out much either and haven't been

2232
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:47,990
i have i have used this as an excuse to

2233
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:49,679
become even more of a hermit than i

2234
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:50,239
usually

2235
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,880
am i'm just not you know ask my wife i

2236
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:54,480
drive her crazy because i'm like yeah i

2237
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:55,520
don't want to go nowhere i don't want to

2238
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,239
do nothing

2239
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:58,400
i just i got a really nice house i'm

2240
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:59,520
getting my money's worth

2241
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:01,440
you know that's right hey i was going to

2242
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,480
actually when we were talking about

2243
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:04,080
oracle earlier before you played the

2244
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:04,560
video

2245
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:05,760
i was going to ask you this because i

2246
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:07,280
was watching i didn't get to i didn't

2247
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:08,719
get to watch the show live last night

2248
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:10,159
but i was watching the replay this

2249
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,960
morning

2250
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:12,400
and i think you had made a comment when

2251
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:14,000
you were talking about oracle

2252
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:15,440
about like you thought there was going

2253
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:17,040
to be a day soon in the future like

2254
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,719
where you're talking about like ai gods

2255
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:20,480
or like a religion sort of

2256
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:22,320
based around you know artificial

2257
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:24,400
intelligence um

2258
01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:25,520
you know i don't know if maybe i saw

2259
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:27,440
terminator too many times as a kid but

2260
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:29,840
my sort of thought process on on ai has

2261
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:30,880
always been that

2262
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:34,800
human beings are not adult enough to

2263
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:37,679
handle the ramifications of artificial

2264
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:39,280
intelligence i think even people who go

2265
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:41,040
at it with like the most

2266
01:14:46,149 --> 01:14:44,239
you know you know who have like the

2267
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:46,159
you know who don't have ill intentions

2268
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:47,600
with it like i just feel like at some

2269
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:49,120
point down the road it's going to go

2270
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:50,000
that way

2271
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:52,320
so i mean do you i mean do you feel like

2272
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:53,840
you know the future of ai

2273
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:56,880
is is really a big positive for humanity

2274
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:58,480
or do you feel like we're going to cause

2275
01:15:03,669 --> 01:14:58,960
some

2276
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:03,679
50 50.

2277
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,400
here's what i think i think that given

2278
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,640
what i know about human nature

2279
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:10,560
any technological advance that's ever

2280
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,480
been made people weaponized

2281
01:15:15,669 --> 01:15:14,480
right we can say that with some degree

2282
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:15,679
of certainty

2283
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,679
we we learned to split the atom and we

2284
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:20,000
could have provided free power

2285
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:21,760
for everybody in the in the world

2286
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:23,199
including the third world where they

2287
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:24,640
didn't even have electricity

2288
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:26,560
at the time that we discovered that some

2289
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,880
countries barely had electricity

2290
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:31,040
we could have done wonders with that

2291
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:32,480
ability to split the atom

2292
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:34,239
we could have everybody in the world

2293
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:35,679
could have had power in the form of a

2294
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:37,280
nuclear power plant

2295
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:39,199
what do we do with it instead we turned

2296
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:40,400
it into

2297
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,800
the earth's greatest weapon yeah a lot

2298
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,920
of people up with it

2299
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:46,000
and that was even in its crude first

2300
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:46,960
forms

2301
01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:49,360
so what worries me is that it's going to

2302
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:51,920
be a tremendous technological advantage

2303
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:52,560
and

2304
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:56,000
i don't feel confident enough

2305
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:59,280
in uh human nature to say that it

2306
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:01,280
wouldn't be weaponized

2307
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:03,120
so i'm not sure what the answer is but

2308
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:04,960
the flip side of the coin is that once

2309
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:06,000
that singularity

2310
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:09,520
is reached it will be a very short time

2311
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:11,120
where we'll go from human level

2312
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,600
intelligence to

2313
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:15,600
a quantum leap ahead of human level

2314
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,000
intelligence and be doing things like

2315
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:21,440
curing cancer curing aids curing

2316
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:24,560
autism preventing you know curing

2317
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,440
diabetes

2318
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:27,520
all of these things that have eluded

2319
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:28,960
man's ability

2320
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:32,960
because we're we only have so much time

2321
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:36,320
research money ability right but these

2322
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:38,800
these ais are going to become a step

2323
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,440
above us

2324
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:41,280
as far as intelligence they may think in

2325
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:42,719
different ways that we haven't even

2326
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:43,600
imagined

2327
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:46,480
thinking about diseases or whatever i

2328
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,159
think there's going to be a golden age

2329
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:50,000
of ai when it first begins that there's

2330
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:51,920
going to be mostly only benefit

2331
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:54,480
from these ai but eventually there's

2332
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:55,520
going to be problems

2333
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:57,040
people are going to weaponize them

2334
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:58,960
that's what i that's how how i think

2335
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,040
it's going to go

2336
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,800
well i mean just from what the the small

2337
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,320
amount of material that i've read

2338
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:05,920
you know as far as like the quantum

2339
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,840
computing and like what these super

2340
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:09,199
computers can do now and

2341
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:11,199
i guess they can you know link together

2342
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:12,159
and all these different things that

2343
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:13,760
they're talking about um

2344
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:15,120
you know as far as you said there's

2345
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:16,159
probably going to be a day and it's

2346
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,840
probably you know sooner than we think

2347
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:19,199
it is where

2348
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:21,199
you know the the capacity of a computer

2349
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,320
is going to be

2350
01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:24,239
far and above anything that any human

2351
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:26,080
alive could be able to do

2352
01:17:29,830 --> 01:17:28,400
you know on their own so it's yeah we're

2353
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:29,840
already starting we're already starting

2354
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,199
to see it in the form of

2355
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:34,800
of some uh very uh narrow

2356
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:37,520
and specific ais you know like people

2357
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:39,360
don't even understand this but hospitals

2358
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,120
now are using ais to

2359
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,040
like look at mammograms and things like

2360
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:45,360
that and they can look through hundreds

2361
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:46,880
of them in the time that it takes a

2362
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:48,960
radiologist a human radiologist to look

2363
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,679
at three

2364
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,080
they can look at 300 in in the time that

2365
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:54,000
it takes a human radiologist to look at

2366
01:17:57,830 --> 01:17:54,719
three

2367
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:57,840
and the accuracy with which they flag

2368
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:00,400
things for the humans to look at is near

2369
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,840
a hundred percent

2370
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:03,440
yeah it's a lot higher than they said i

2371
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:04,560
remember seeing something about that

2372
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,880
where

2373
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:06,560
they were looking at cancer and like

2374
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:07,920
mris or or x

2375
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:09,199
you know mammograms or something and

2376
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,600
they said that the the ai system was

2377
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,040
able to detect

2378
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:15,440
more i guess like like you said red

2379
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:18,159
flags or like cancer type cells than

2380
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:20,080
the human the human radiologist was who

2381
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:22,880
was actually looking at the same data

2382
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:25,040
yeah yeah so there's already there's

2383
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:26,960
already ai's that are better at humans

2384
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,320
at certain tasks

2385
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:30,960
the difference is there's something a

2386
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:32,719
concept called a strong ai

2387
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,920
so in other words we've already

2388
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:35,360
developed these ai's that have these

2389
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:35,840
very

2390
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:40,080
strong ai

2391
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:43,120
will be good like that at everything

2392
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:45,199
and that is what is the tremendous

2393
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:47,040
challenge of computer scientists is to

2394
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,239
create that

2395
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:50,000
you know and there's all different

2396
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:51,600
there's all different methods people

2397
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:53,120
think it could be quantum computing

2398
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,480
other people think no it's neural

2399
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,679
networks

2400
01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:57,360
uh you design a neural network that

2401
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,199
operates like a human brain and then you

2402
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:00,800
train it and teach it

2403
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:06,470
well i think you know what what's elon

2404
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,800
musk doing now and he's like putting uh

2405
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:10,960
the neural links your chips and it's

2406
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:12,159
scary

2407
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:14,080
yeah let's have a direct link to the

2408
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,520
internet and this

2409
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,000
this whole transhumanism things brings

2410
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:20,480
up a whole lot of philosophical problems

2411
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:23,760
because let's just say for example that

2412
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:25,840
elon musk's neural link starts to really

2413
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:27,600
take off and work really well

2414
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:29,360
and let's say that anybody that has that

2415
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,520
neural link can connect to the internet

2416
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:33,120
they will have the whole of human

2417
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:35,520
knowledge at their fingertips

2418
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:36,800
whenever they need an answer to a

2419
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:38,320
question boom it's right there in your

2420
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:39,120
brain

2421
01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:42,800
right now what if you were going for

2422
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:44,159
some job

2423
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:46,480
and you were going against somebody that

2424
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,400
has the neural link

2425
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:50,880
you know the the superhuman abilities

2426
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:52,960
that that guy has that you don't have is

2427
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:54,000
a problem

2428
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:56,239
and again if we look at human nature i

2429
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,520
think what's going to happen is that the

2430
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,040
haves and the have-nots are going to

2431
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:00,640
become further and further apart

2432
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,840
because if you don't have the money to

2433
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:03,679
get this upgrade what are you going to

2434
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:04,400
do

2435
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:05,280
and you're not going to be able to

2436
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:06,560
compete with people that have that

2437
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:08,080
upgrade so then we're going to have two

2438
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:09,760
classes of people

2439
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:11,840
really truly the haves and the have-nots

2440
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:12,960
we're going to have the people that have

2441
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:14,560
the neural link and that

2442
01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:17,679
tremendous could be a tremendous joining

2443
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:19,520
of computer intelligence and human

2444
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:20,880
intelligence

2445
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:22,639
and the people that are stuck in the

2446
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:24,960
stone age with just their paltry organic

2447
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:25,440
brain

2448
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:28,000
and not having that advantage it's going

2449
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:28,639
to be

2450
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:32,480
think about it like this though like

2451
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:33,280
right now

2452
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:35,920
in 2020 in the cell like with the cell

2453
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:37,440
phone that's in your pocket

2454
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,520
you have access to more information than

2455
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:41,600
any humans and any like any point in our

2456
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:42,239
current

2457
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:44,800
you know civilization has ever had so

2458
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:45,600
like we have

2459
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:47,760
we have all this information right now

2460
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:49,600
and what do people decide to do with it

2461
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:50,159
they're

2462
01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:52,480
making tick tock videos and you know

2463
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:53,600
spending time

2464
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:55,360
you know how much more do you know how

2465
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:57,280
much of the internet bandwidth is taken

2466
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,320
up by porn

2467
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,800
i i've read several statistics that it's

2468
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,320
more than 30

2469
01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:04,560
maybe as much as 50 of the internet

2470
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:06,320
bandwidth around the world

2471
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,679
what people are viewing watching

2472
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:09,520
consuming is porn or

2473
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:12,800
porn related that's crazy we have the

2474
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:14,800
world's greatest most tremendous

2475
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:16,000
communications tool

2476
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:17,760
that humans have ever invented and what

2477
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:20,639
do we do with it porn and kitten videos

2478
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:23,280
you know you can't forget the kittens

2479
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:24,000
yeah so

2480
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:25,600
i i don't know i mean like i said i

2481
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:27,520
think we've got we you know we as humans

2482
01:21:30,629 --> 01:21:28,639
right now without the

2483
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:30,639
neural network already have access to

2484
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,159
all of this knowledge and

2485
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:34,560
most of us i think choose to you know

2486
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:35,520
like you said we

2487
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,840
we fill our time with uh with other

2488
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:39,120
activities so

2489
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,560
so i don't you know i don't know how

2490
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:42,239
that's gonna go

2491
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,880
yeah i think it's an interesting time to

2492
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,400
be alive for sure

2493
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:48,320
an interesting time to be alive we may

2494
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:49,440
see

2495
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:58,560
we probably will i'm betting that we're

2496
01:22:02,550 --> 01:21:59,440
going to live to see

2497
01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:02,560
the singularity happen where we may also

2498
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:03,600
live to see

2499
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,560
humans merge with that artificial

2500
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:08,000
intelligence in the form of something

2501
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,040
like neural link

2502
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:11,120
that might be within our lifetime and

2503
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:12,800
what a tremendous change for the human

2504
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:14,960
race both of those things is going to be

2505
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:17,360
it's going to be a crazy ride what did

2506
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:18,880
they say was singularity like i remember

2507
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,080
seeing something a while back where they

2508
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:23,199
were predicting like 20 was it 20 40

2509
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,199
twenty thirty five or i was going to be

2510
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:27,360
sort of the year of singularity

2511
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:30,320
i'm betting on 2040 or sooner and the

2512
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:32,000
singularity is basically

2513
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:34,960
that point in which an ai system is

2514
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,600
first of all

2515
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:37,679
indistinguishable from a human as far as

2516
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:39,199
something like a touring test

2517
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:40,800
in other words if they put somebody in

2518
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:43,360
front of it that didn't know it was an

2519
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,920
ai

2520
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:45,440
and that person was allowed to interview

2521
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,120
the ai

2522
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:48,639
would the person be able to detect that

2523
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:50,480
it was an ai or not or would they

2524
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:51,600
believe it was a human

2525
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,520
that's one of the the criteria that

2526
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:54,719
people often cite

2527
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:56,560
but generally the singularity is

2528
01:23:01,990 --> 01:22:58,800
described as that moment that

2529
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,000
an artificial intelligence becomes as

2530
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,120
intelligent as a human so

2531
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,120
we're not far off we're really not going

2532
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:08,880
to be far off i don't believe that we

2533
01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:09,199
are

2534
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:11,440
i'd be surprised if it takes until 2040.

2535
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:12,639
i think that that

2536
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:15,280
google look at the tremendous money that

2537
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:16,960
they have they're putting

2538
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:19,520
all chips in on ai and we we're running

2539
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,000
on and

2540
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,880
ai is monitoring us right now people

2541
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:24,639
don't realize that we're on youtube

2542
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:26,960
and ai runs most of youtube or different

2543
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,280
ais run most of youtube

2544
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:31,360
it's coming friends this singularity is

2545
01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:32,800
coming

2546
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:35,920
whether good or bad remains to be seen

2547
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:37,199
but it's coming

2548
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,320
i think that there's definitely going to

2549
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:39,840
be some negative to that too i mean just

2550
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:41,120
look at right now where you're you know

2551
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:43,040
you're really starting to see this whole

2552
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:44,560
this whole deal with like you know deep

2553
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:46,320
fake videos where they can basically

2554
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:48,239
make they can take a clip from somebody

2555
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:49,600
and then make that clip

2556
01:23:52,229 --> 01:23:50,880
say something totally different than

2557
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:52,239
what was said and i mean the mouth is

2558
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:53,520
moving just like

2559
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:56,320
you know yeah actually i mean what is

2560
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,360
this scary

2561
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:59,280
somebody or is that gonna go somebody

2562
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,520
did a deep fake of richard nixon reading

2563
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,440
the speech that would have been read

2564
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,760
if they saw that if the astronauts

2565
01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:07,280
weren't able to get off the moon and

2566
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:08,719
they were going to die there

2567
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,840
and that was creepy realistic it looked

2568
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:13,440
absolutely like him it sounded

2569
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:15,360
absolutely like him and you just get a

2570
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:16,239
body double

2571
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:20,080
slap on nixon's face and

2572
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:22,239
some clever computer work and it looks

2573
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:23,679
exactly like nixon

2574
01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:26,800
it's crazy and then i think going back

2575
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:28,159
to what you said where you were talking

2576
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:29,199
about you know here

2577
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,880
at some point with you you know humans

2578
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:32,560
merging with machine

2579
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:34,239
you know and then the philosophical

2580
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:35,520
questions i think that are going to

2581
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,760
arise from that you know as far as

2582
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:39,199
if that happens then you could you could

2583
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:41,440
talk about humans living to be

2584
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:44,400
150 you know 200 years old or something

2585
01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:45,440
like that and then

2586
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,800
the you know everything that sort of

2587
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:48,480
comes from that and then curing all of

2588
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:49,199
these

2589
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:51,199
you know the you know the plus side is

2590
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,960
you cure all these diseases but then

2591
01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:54,560
if more people are alive on the earth

2592
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:56,560
that's using more resources and this

2593
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:57,600
this and this and then

2594
01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:00,239
how does that affect the earth going

2595
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:01,440
forward how does that affect

2596
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,840
we're already over populated imagine if

2597
01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:05,360
there was no disease and we all live to

2598
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:06,639
be 300.

2599
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,639
but that may force us to that may force

2600
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:10,320
us to colonize

2601
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:13,360
space you know we may have a microwave

2602
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:14,400
or they're gonna have to get more

2603
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:16,960
serious about renewable resources and

2604
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,840
you know get off of oil and you get more

2605
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:21,199
you know i don't know if it's solar

2606
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:22,159
hydrogen

2607
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:23,920
nuclear you know whatever it is i mean

2608
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:25,360
there's all kinds of other options out

2609
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:26,880
there that have never been

2610
01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,639
you know produced on a mass scale

2611
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,560
because the current you know

2612
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:32,719
the current kind of global system is is

2613
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:34,400
based around oil right now

2614
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:37,600
you know so i don't know

2615
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,199
yeah i'm not sure what's going to happen

2616
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:42,960
the party told you to reject the

2617
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:45,840
evidence of your eyes and ears 1984 is

2618
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:47,199
becoming a reality

2619
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:49,840
yeah i didn't know when i read 1984 back

2620
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,679
in the day that it it was a

2621
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,600
it was a documentary i thought it was

2622
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:55,360
like a fiction

2623
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,800
i didn't know it was like maybe it's a

2624
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:58,880
survival guide for what you're going to

2625
01:26:01,910 --> 01:25:59,440
live through

2626
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:01,920
soon you know i don't know but yeah all

2627
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,199
this stuff is funny and

2628
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:04,800
and i i'm a little concerned about all

2629
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:06,320
this stuff with it that's going on the

2630
01:26:10,229 --> 01:26:07,600
internet now and internet

2631
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:10,239
censorship and uh the way things are

2632
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,600
clamped down and

2633
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:14,320
i don't know you know i'm 50 50 on that

2634
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:15,679
too because part of me thinks

2635
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:17,040
these are private companies they could

2636
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:18,480
do whatever they want but the other part

2637
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:19,600
of me thinks

2638
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:21,120
you shouldn't give any private company

2639
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,960
that much power because

2640
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:24,639
if somebody's like let's say for example

2641
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:26,080
somebody's d platform

2642
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,600
whether you agree or disagree with what

2643
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:29,360
they were talking about if you take away

2644
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:30,560
their twitter

2645
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:33,040
their youtube their facebook their

2646
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:34,159
instagram

2647
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,159
then they don't have a voice in the

2648
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:38,480
world that other people have

2649
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:41,199
you know and that's a big problem i

2650
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:42,400
think when you look at it from maybe

2651
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:44,239
sort of a libertarian i guess point of

2652
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:45,120
view it's like

2653
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:46,480
like what you just said i mean these are

2654
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:48,480
private companies they have terms of

2655
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,679
service they have

2656
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:51,199
you know rules that you have to follow

2657
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,560
and if they don't agree with what you're

2658
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:54,000
putting out there i mean i guess they

2659
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:55,520
are in their right to

2660
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:57,440
to do that i mean when you when you take

2661
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:59,199
away a whole viewpoint

2662
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:01,120
then all you're doing is basically just

2663
01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:02,400
you know everybody that everybody's

2664
01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:03,679
still on there is all just

2665
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,679
what what's the what's the term i can't

2666
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:06,800
think of it but it's like everybody's

2667
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,159
just collectively thinking the same

2668
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,239
thing nobody's challenging any ideas

2669
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:12,480
it becomes an echo chamber like group

2670
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,760
think yeah where everybody's in

2671
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:15,280
the chamber oh of the same thing and

2672
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:16,480
that's where that's where a lot of this

2673
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:17,199
is right now

2674
01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:20,400
i mean you know i don't uh you know

2675
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:21,760
if these people really wanted to they

2676
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:23,840
could start another social media service

2677
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,880
that was just

2678
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:26,639
all for conservatives or all for

2679
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:28,159
liberals or for

2680
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:30,239
whatever you want to be yeah i'm really

2681
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:32,960
surprised somebody hasn't

2682
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:35,040
well i think they have but it's just not

2683
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,239
been able to catch on

2684
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:37,760
yeah you know globally like like a

2685
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:41,040
twitter or a facebook but um

2686
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:42,159
but yeah i don't know the censorship

2687
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:43,520
thing is definitely a big deal i think

2688
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:44,880
what you said as far as deep

2689
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:46,239
you know de-platforming people and

2690
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:47,120
you're seeing a lot of that now

2691
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,480
especially when the whole

2692
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:50,800
you know new age sort of ufo community

2693
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:52,320
where a lot of these guys are

2694
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:54,480
getting taken off their their platforms

2695
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:55,920
and it's like i mean

2696
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:57,280
you know if you want to if you want to

2697
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,440
give somebody your money and your

2698
01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:01,040
you know and you believe whatever

2699
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:02,159
they're selling i mean that's that's

2700
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:03,040
your viewpoint

2701
01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:05,760
now if that person is you know going out

2702
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:06,960
there saying oh this

2703
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:09,760
product right here cures covid and then

2704
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:11,280
people take it and they poison

2705
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:12,719
themselves and they die

2706
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:15,760
that's probably a little different um i

2707
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,880
would look at that maybe a little bit

2708
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:17,840
different as if

2709
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,280
somebody's out there talking about blue

2710
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:21,679
chickens and space jumping the bars and

2711
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,880
all that stuff like that's

2712
01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:24,880
that's a whole different thing to me but

2713
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,639
yeah i think these are complex problems

2714
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:28,639
and i'm just a stupid monkey so

2715
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,639
mostly i try to stay out of it but once

2716
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:32,080
in a while i think about these things

2717
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,120
because

2718
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:35,199
you know uh one of the things that

2719
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:37,040
worries me is like you know that saying

2720
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:38,639
like with the nazis you know when they

2721
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:40,159
came for the jews i did nothing because

2722
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:42,080
i wasn't jewish and next they came for

2723
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:43,199
me

2724
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:46,639
you know do we just go well they

2725
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,639
violated the terms of service part of me

2726
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:50,159
though does see some of them being

2727
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:50,719
stupid

2728
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:52,480
and going like you knew you weren't

2729
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:54,239
supposed to say this and we have people

2730
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:55,840
like kerry cassidy's really pushing the

2731
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:56,719
envelope like

2732
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:58,719
they demonetize her platform and then

2733
01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:00,880
she has that whack job from pandemic on

2734
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:02,159
her show

2735
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,159
right after they demonetized her that's

2736
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:06,000
basically going [\h__\h] you youtube you

2737
01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:06,880
know like

2738
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,480
she's gonna deserve whatever happens to

2739
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,320
her and a lot of people think that her

2740
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:12,239
channel is going to be going next

2741
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:14,400
she's going to be one of the next you

2742
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,360
got you know you got

2743
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,679
you got jordan sather out there and he's

2744
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:19,280
pushing like the whole mms

2745
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:22,800
uh you know miracle cure-all and

2746
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:24,080
you know you hear you see these articles

2747
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,360
all the time i saw one the other day

2748
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,120
where it was like some guy was

2749
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:30,239
some guy had taken some form of you know

2750
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,000
i can't think of the name of it but

2751
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:34,719
that's that particular comp mms or some

2752
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:35,120
you know

2753
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:42,229
something chloride chlorine dioxide

2754
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:43,199
whatever it is

2755
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:44,719
you know this guy took it and he ended

2756
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:46,320
up getting sick and he died you know and

2757
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:47,120
i'm sure that

2758
01:29:50,229 --> 01:29:48,719
he probably heard that i'm not saying he

2759
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:50,239
heard it on his channel but

2760
01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:53,199
he probably heard somebody so yeah you

2761
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:55,040
know he heard that from somebody

2762
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:01,110
well i appreciate that you took the time

2763
01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:03,040
to come and hang out with us tonight

2764
01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:05,120
here at the apocalypse cabin it's been a

2765
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:06,320
fun night

2766
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:09,199
uh we're gonna we're gonna wrap things

2767
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:09,679
up here

2768
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:12,719
friends and uh tomorrow i think we'll

2769
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:16,080
be doing another show if all pans out

2770
01:30:19,510 --> 01:30:17,679
i kind of committed that we're gonna do

2771
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:19,520
four shows a week i'm here at the cabin

2772
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:20,080
early

2773
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:23,440
to try to get a uh to try to get this

2774
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:24,239
stupid

2775
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:27,440
sun room built and uh

2776
01:30:31,430 --> 01:30:29,120
things are going pretty good with that

2777
01:30:33,910 --> 01:30:31,440
and uh i'm here until sunday

2778
01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:33,920
so i'm hoping for tremendous progress on

2779
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:34,800
that thing

2780
01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:38,320
but you never know here like i could go

2781
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,679
out there tomorrow and all the tools

2782
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:41,520
break down and nothing works right and i

2783
01:30:44,950 --> 01:30:42,960
don't have the materials i need and it

2784
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:44,960
takes two hours to go get them and

2785
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:46,800
we'll see what happens we'll definitely

2786
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:48,159
see what happens but we'll have to have

2787
01:30:52,870 --> 01:30:49,199
you come back

2788
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:52,880
once you scour through your supply of uh

2789
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:55,600
evps and try to find some more dead

2790
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,960
people talking because that was an

2791
01:30:59,430 --> 01:30:58,480
interesting show and i'd like to do that

2792
01:31:01,910 --> 01:30:59,440
again right

2793
01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:01,920
maybe i can maybe i can go back and uh

2794
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:03,280
you know get some like i said

2795
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:05,120
or maybe maybe if i get some time here i

2796
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:06,800
can you know go do a couple more

2797
01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:08,239
investigations and maybe come up with

2798
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:09,440
some newer

2799
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,360
uh material but right now it's basically

2800
01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:13,440
just you know taking care of the kid

2801
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:14,800
and just dealing you know kind of

2802
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:16,480
dealing with having the new baby

2803
01:31:20,470 --> 01:31:19,440
uh i hear you man i have been able to do

2804
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:20,480
some um

2805
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:22,159
some some sort of i guess like side

2806
01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:23,520
research on

2807
01:31:27,910 --> 01:31:26,080
um some of the missing 4-1-1 stuff i've

2808
01:31:30,149 --> 01:31:27,920
really gotten into that here lately so i

2809
01:31:32,870 --> 01:31:30,159
like that i've never

2810
01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:32,880
looking into that right now but uh oh

2811
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:33,280
before

2812
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:36,320
know

2813
01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:37,920
when are when are you planning on doing

2814
01:31:42,470 --> 01:31:39,840
the the final episode on the uh

2815
01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:42,480
curious case of sarah adams any idea

2816
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:44,159
when that might be hitting you know like

2817
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:46,960
i i've given her like six opportunities

2818
01:31:50,390 --> 01:31:48,320
to do the interview

2819
01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:50,400
and i'm gonna this is what i'm gonna say

2820
01:31:53,669 --> 01:31:52,159
i'm gonna message her one more time

2821
01:31:55,270 --> 01:31:53,679
and if she doesn't commit to something

2822
01:31:56,229 --> 01:31:55,280
then i'm just gonna run with what i have

2823
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:56,239
and

2824
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:58,400
she she can respond to it if she wants

2825
01:32:02,709 --> 01:31:59,840
to or she's not going to

2826
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:02,719
respond to it because uh i don't know

2827
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:04,239
she told me that she was deathly sick

2828
01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:05,760
and then she was taking all these glam

2829
01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:08,080
selfies of herself the same day

2830
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:09,679
and like i don't know what's going on

2831
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:11,520
and now she's doing conferences and i

2832
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:13,199
just saw her do somebody else's show but

2833
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:14,480
it was one of those shows where they

2834
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:16,000
just let her talk they don't challenge

2835
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:17,760
anything she says they don't ask her any

2836
01:32:21,270 --> 01:32:18,719
hard questions

2837
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:21,280
softball so if she could do the

2838
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:22,239
softballs

2839
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:24,159
she could do our show and we're going to

2840
01:32:27,669 --> 01:32:25,920
be nice and respectful to her so i don't

2841
01:32:29,590 --> 01:32:27,679
know what the issue is there but i kind

2842
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:29,600
of think that she knows that

2843
01:32:32,950 --> 01:32:30,800
you know i'm going to push her and

2844
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:32,960
challenge her on a lot of her claims and

2845
01:32:36,709 --> 01:32:34,800
i don't think she wants to get into it i

2846
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:36,719
think she wants to backpedal now and

2847
01:32:40,390 --> 01:32:38,880
you know i think you can do that

2848
01:32:42,310 --> 01:32:40,400
respectfully and

2849
01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:42,320
sure you know you can you can do that in

2850
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,239
a mature way and have that conversation

2851
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:45,840
at the same time not giving her a pass

2852
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:46,800
either i mean i think

2853
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:47,920
and i think me and you were sort of

2854
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:49,120
talking about this on twitter a little

2855
01:32:51,669 --> 01:32:50,000
bit but it's like

2856
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:51,679
you know if she if she really is what

2857
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:53,120
she says she is

2858
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:54,800
she should be willing to step up and

2859
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:56,239
face the criticism and

2860
01:33:00,310 --> 01:32:59,120
maybe you know people who believe in her

2861
01:33:01,110 --> 01:33:00,320
they're not going to give a [\h__\h] like

2862
01:33:02,229 --> 01:33:01,120
what she said

2863
01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:02,239
no i don't think they're gonna give a

2864
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:03,840
[\h__\h] i don't think they're gonna give a

2865
01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:05,199
[\h__\h] what i say

2866
01:33:08,229 --> 01:33:06,320
yeah i don't think they're gonna give a

2867
01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:08,239
[\h__\h] what i say so uh

2868
01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:10,239
an invisible hand says the black goo

2869
01:33:16,310 --> 01:33:12,719
huckster one time black goo huckster

2870
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:16,320
now she's on to uh you know other super

2871
01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:17,360
powers

2872
01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:21,440
so and deviated is late to the party

2873
01:33:25,750 --> 01:33:24,080
late to the party well friends uh it's

2874
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:25,760
been a long day for me

2875
01:33:29,510 --> 01:33:27,679
we are gonna wrap things up here it's

2876
01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:29,520
always nice to talk to dan

2877
01:33:33,189 --> 01:33:32,639
hogan and uh we'll see you guys again

2878
01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:33,199
soon

2879
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:35,280
right all right thanks guys appreciate

2880
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:39,199
it yeah let's uh let's play us out here

2881
01:33:43,189 --> 01:33:41,440
all right friends until next time my

2882
01:34:02,830 --> 01:33:43,199
name is stephen cambion

2883
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:11,270
so

2884
01:35:02,170 --> 01:34:20,040
[Music]

2885
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:02,180
[Applause]

2886
01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:27,050
[Music]

2887
01:35:57,300 --> 01:35:29,120
[Applause]

2888
01:35:58,300 --> 01:35:57,310
[Music]